One hour and forty six minutes of Charlie White (penguinz0) working through the Bricks & Minifigs Lego scandal, stitched by a fan channel from three of his uploads and running newest first. Segment one is fresh police body cam in which CEO Ammon McNeff works the phones trying to get YouTuber Reckless Ben put back in a cell after he made bond. Segment two is real Utah court audio, including the state arguing that a defendant should not be told what he is charged with because he might make a video about it, and an officer telling McNeff that no extortion statute fit so they found a different one. Segment three is Coffeezilla's forensic accounting: the collection was worth about $107,000 rather than the $200,000 headline, roughly $82,000 should have been in the store on the handover night, only $21,000 could be proven present, and Bryan Mansell is still owed somewhere between $50,000 and $83,000 while being sued for $1.3 million.
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At a glance
One hour and forty six minutes of Charlie White, the commentator who posts as penguinz0, working through the strangest consumer dispute of 2026: a Star Wars Lego collection that went into a Bricks & Minifigs franchise store in Oregon on consignment and largely did not come back out, and the year of arrests, body cam footage, court audio, gag orders and public relations wreckage that followed.
This is a compilation, not a single monologue. Three of Charlie's videos have been stitched end to end by the fan channel Penguinz FanPage, running newest first. Segment one is the fresh police body cam that Reckless Ben released after his first arrest, in which Bricks & Minifigs CEO Ammon McNeff works the phones trying to get him put back in a cell. Segment two is Reckless Ben's long delayed Part 3, built from real court audio, in which the state of Utah argues that a defendant should not be told what he is charged with because he might make a video about it. Segment three is Charlie walking through Coffeezilla's forensic accounting of the collection itself, the one piece of this story where somebody actually sat down with the spreadsheets and the point of sale records and did the arithmetic.
The through line Charlie keeps returning to is the title's second word. Over and over, a claim gets made on camera by Bricks & Minifigs, and then footage, email correspondence, a photograph or a spreadsheet turns up showing the opposite. The extortion report that police could not fit to any statute. The attorney who supposedly never followed up, contradicted by the attorney's own email chain. The U-Haul that emphatically did not exist until a brightened photograph found it in the parking lot. The inventory spreadsheet corporate had never seen, hosted on a corporate email account, and dated.
And underneath all of it there is one person who has still not been paid. Bryan Mansell handed a collection built over decades to a business he trusted, and by Coffeezilla's math is out somewhere between fifty and eighty three thousand dollars. He is also, at the time of these videos, being sued by that business for $1.3 million.
What this compilation actually is
Worth being precise about the provenance, because the channel name invites confusion. Penguinz FanPage is not Charlie White. It is a fan run channel that takes segments from his main channel and restitches them into long single topic supercuts. Its uploads are labelled things like "Charlie Reacts To..." and "| Penguinz0", and it has built several of these for the Lego story already, including a nine thousand second "Full Saga" cut.
This particular cut takes three uploads and runs them in reverse chronological order, so you get the newest development first and then work backwards into how the case got there.
Figure 1. How the compilation is built. Runtimes are exact: the first two uploads run 1274 and 2651 seconds and appear whole, and the third is the back forty one minutes of a sixty eight minute video, cut in at the point where Charlie turns to Coffeezilla's numbers.
0:00 Season 31 of my life, and a plotline about Lego
2:22 Body cam one: Ben makes bond, and Ammon McNeff calls the police about it
5:11 "Fraudulent gift certificates"
6:12 "Do I need to go and get some of my staff armed"
11:09 Officer Abrams phones the jail
12:13 "All five of them should be charged"
15:51 Typing "Benjamin Schneider, Ohio" into a search bar
16:32 The Athens man, and what Ammon McNeff built out of a name match
17:53 "In your opinion, would you go get a shotgun and bring it in the store?"
18:56 The officer's answer
19:18 End of the director's cut
21:14 Part two begins: Reckless Ben's Part 3 and real court audio
21:51 "I'm about to go to court and I don't even know what I did wrong"
24:03 The state's argument: do not give him discovery, he might make a video
25:45 The protective order gets signed without the evidence being looked at
27:02 The Provo case, and the department that actually followed discovery law
27:32 "Hi there. I'm calling to report a crime"
32:00 Ben's own case against Ammon McNeff goes nowhere
34:15 "There really was no extortion code that would fit your situation"
36:00 "The tricky thing is we have to prove he entered or remained unlawfully"
37:26 What actually happened when Ben was asked to leave
38:34 "I thought that might be a second degree felony"
40:00 The world's smallest violin: "we want to make him whole"
42:33 While actively suing Bryan Mansell for $1.3 million
43:52 "Would you be willing to just take this? And the answer was no"
44:20 The attorney's email chain, and what the reply actually said
46:03 The Fox interview: "and then we never heard back"
48:52 The email address was a trap: subpoenaing Google
49:26 Police officers gossiping about whether YouTube pays
50:47 RICO, and a sniper on the hill
52:13 Dan McNeff's post about the lynch mob
54:56 The photo lineup performance
57:16 The prosecutor: "I have not watched it. No"
1:00:26 Second degree felony, up to fifteen years
1:03:06 "I have my freedom of speech back, baby"
1:03:31 The chicken dance
1:04:28 How it got there: state court to federal court
1:05:25 Part three begins: Coffeezilla and the U-Haul
1:06:27 The former Eugene employee calls
1:09:30 Brighten the photograph
1:12:59 The camper trailer story
1:17:05 Point of sale records and the real valuation
1:19:11 $107,000, and the $82,000 that should have been there
1:20:21 What corporate said was there
1:21:03 Two hundred photographs, hand tagged
1:23:57 The M&R Productions side deal
1:25:42 $51,000 sold, $17,000 paid
1:26:45 Layaway
1:27:43 "It was about 98"
1:30:19 $10,000 in sales that never hit the spreadsheet
1:33:45 Everyone is kind of right and kind of wrong
1:35:40 What Bryan Mansell is still owed
1:36:58 The gold standard, and what it cost him to trust it
1:42:03 "Verification, documentation. Is that unreasonable?"
1:43:55 "Well, I had no idea"
The cast and the calendar
Charlie assumes you have been following along, so here is the scaffolding the compilation runs on.
Bryan Mansell is the Customer. He and his father Ed Mansell, then 83, consigned a Star Wars Lego collection built over decades to the Bricks & Minifigs store in Keizer, Oregon, on a split weighted heavily to the Mansells. The store's own publicity put the collection at "well over $200,000". Ed Mansell died during the dispute.
Chrystal Law-Gorman and Benjamin Gorman were the franchisees who took the collection in and kept the inventory spreadsheet everything now turns on. Charlie calls them "the Gormans" throughout, and Coffeezilla just says "Crystal".
Brandon Best and Joshua Johnson are the incoming franchisees who took over the store on the night of 14 November 2024, the night at the center of the entire case.
Ammon McNeff is the CEO of Bricks & Minifigs corporate, headquartered in Provo, Utah. Matt McNeff is his brother and co-owner. Dan McNeff is their father, a former CEO of the company, who surfaces in this compilation via a public post.
Ben Schneider, who posts as Reckless Ben, is the YouTuber Bryan Mansell went to when the ordinary channels went dead. He has been arrested more than once in Utah, is representing himself, and for a period was legally barred from publishing about the company at all.
Coffeezilla is Stephen Findeisen, the investigative YouTuber who got hold of the point of sale records and the inventory spreadsheet and did the only genuine accounting anyone in this story has produced.
2023Ed and Bryan Mansell consign the Star Wars collection to the Keizer, Oregon Bricks & Minifigs store, then run by Chrystal Law-Gorman. Store publicity calls it "well over $200,000".
Nov 2024Law-Gorman tells corporate she does not intend to continue as a franchisee. Days later corporate removes the Gormans and hands the store to Brandon Best and Joshua Johnson.
14 Nov 2024The handover night. Everything in Coffeezilla's accounting is measured against what was and was not in that building on this date. It is also the night a U-Haul was or was not in the parking lot.
May 2026Reckless Ben publishes his first investigation. It clears six million views. Ben and his crew travel to Utah to serve court papers, and Ben is arrested for the first time in his life.
May 2026Bricks & Minifigs files a civil suit naming Ben Schneider and Bryan Mansell under the state RICO statute. The figure attached to Mansell is $1.3 million.
4 Jun 2026Corporate announces the Keizer store closes permanently and that it has parted ways with Best and Johnson, and says it has contacted the Mansell family about restitution.
10 Jun 2026Coffeezilla publishes "I Found The $200,000 Missing Lego", the point of sale and spreadsheet forensics that segment three is built on.
17 Jun 2026Charlie posts "I Finally Caught Up with the LEGO Scandal". Its back forty one minutes become part three of this compilation.
Jun 2026A court order bars Ben from publishing about the company. Part 3 sits finished and unreleasable. Charlie's phrasing: he was muzzled.
early Jul 2026Federal court lifts the restriction, treating the videos as commentary and investigative journalism. Part 3 goes up on 9 July, and Charlie posts "LEGO Scandal is Reaching the Endgame" the same day, which becomes part two here.
21 Jul 2026Ben releases the body cam from the night of his first arrest: "They Tried to Put Me Back in Jail".
24 Jul 2026Charlie's reaction to that body cam goes up. It becomes part one, the opening of this compilation.
25 Jul 2026Penguinz FanPage stitches all three together and posts this 1:46:33 cut.
Figure 2. The saga behind the compilation, with the three source uploads placed in it. Dates for the videos are their verified YouTube upload dates.
Part one: the body cam after the first arrest
0:00 to 21:14. Source: "LEGO Scandal Clown Keeps Embarrassing Himself", 24 July 2026.
Season 31 of my life
Charlie opens the way he opens a lot of these, by pretending his life is a television show with writers making questionable choices.
"I got to tell you, season 31 of my life has been a pretty fun journey, but I didn't expect the writers to go in such a different direction with some of my interests. When they introduced the Lego scandal plotline this year, I would have thought that that'd be something that would have never clicked with me in any way. Like, maybe I'd read about it and be like, oh, weird, and then just completely forget about it. But man, this plotline for this season has been unbelievable." (0:00)
He credits the writing, and specifically the villains, who he says are "so unbelievably unlikable" that they carry the show. The comparison he lands on: "It's like the Akatsuki from Naruto, but if they were not cool and just extraordinarily pathetic."
The trophy, though, goes to one man. Charlie's characterisation of Ammon McNeff is the running joke of the entire hour and forty six minutes and it starts here, in full:
"God gave special care to the creation of Ammon. He said, I'm going to make the perfect twerp. And so he did. And he blessed us all with his presence. Ammon McNeff is like the perfect amalgamation of equal parts delusion and dork. It's the perfect fusion dance of these two qualities rolled up into one guy who loves to twirl his mustache." (0:00)
The thesis of the segment, before a frame of footage rolls: Reckless Ben has posted new body cam, it shows Ammon McNeff working the police, and it shows how far Bricks & Minifigs went to keep Ben in a cell over videos he was making.
Body cam one: the man who made bond
The footage begins immediately after Ben's release. Ben narrates over it:
"This is filmed right after I get released from jail the first time, because I got arrested because I was trying to serve them court papers to take him to court. They're just making up reasons for me to be arrested. But then I get out of jail because I paid for bonds. I get out of jail and now Ammon's just calling the police because he's like, you guys let Ben out of jail? Like what the heck? How could you guys do that? Ben needs to be in jail right now." (2:22)
Charlie's imagined version of the moment is one of the better bits in part one. Ammon in his office celebrating that Ben is in jail, finding out he posted bond, flipping his desk, sweating, squealing, and getting the police on the phone, "because I think Ammon McNeff calls the police more than he calls his own family. He is more acclimated to their department than he is his own household."
On the recording, McNeff tells the officer that Ben was booked into the Utah jail, that he is out of state and therefore a flight risk, that he was released anyway, and that "he's a YouTuber that does this stuff for videos and clicks." Then comes the claim the segment pivots on:
McNeff: "He was arrested in California for doing this kind of trespassing and this kind of stuff. Before, um, just I think in 2024, right?"
Ben, over the footage, three times, flatly:
"My first time getting arrested ever was for serving my court papers. My first time ever being arrested. This is my first time ever getting arrested. But I think Ammon's thinking, oh well, if I lie to the police and make it seem like he's a criminal, maybe they'll just keep him in jail this time." (2:22)
Charlie's read on it is that this is a signature move rather than a slip. "An excellent strategy from Ammon, a classic in his playbook here: lying. He does love that technique. It's his signature anime finishing move. And it has worked to great success for the most part, unfortunately, even though it is just blatantly provably false." He notes the obvious verification path: police records exist, and Ben's position is that any check would show the only arrests on his record are the ones connected to this case.
"Fraudulent gift certificates"
The call continues, and McNeff adds another allegation:
McNeff: "He's also been passing fraudulent gift certificates to financially harm..." (5:11)
Ben's team, on camera, cannot work out what that means. One of them says he rewatched the section five or six times trying to parse it. Their best guess, offered as a guess:
"I think he means the world record certificate." (5:18)
They are referring to a gag Ben and his crew had run involving a mock Guinness World Record certificate. Charlie treats the gap between the gag and the allegation as the whole point: a bit gets converted, somewhere in transit, into "passing fraudulent gift certificates to financially harm" a business. His line: "I think Ammon lives in like a separate dimension. His brain is just lost in the ether. It doesn't inhabit this corporeal dimension."
"Do I need to go and get some of my staff armed"
The escalation in the call is fast, and this is where Charlie's tone stops being purely comic.
McNeff: "At this point, I just need some information so I can tell our staff what is going on, because if I need to go and get some of my staff armed so that he can't threaten them, that's what I need to do. Or they're going to go find him and rearrest him, because he clearly had to have violated some kind of rule. There's got to be something to stop this guy from continuing to intimidate our staff." (6:12)
Charlie's response mixes ridicule with a genuine objection. The ridicule: McNeff described as a superhero preparing to evacuate his staff in a van to a bat cave, on the theory that Ben is a cannibal who will feast on their flesh and bones. The objection underneath it is procedural, and he states it plainly. Nothing unusual happened. Ben went to jail on low level charges, posted bond, and was released, which is how bond works. "If you're that upset about it and writing fanfic at this point, take it up with a judge, dude. Why are you calling officer action here, just random policeman, about it to whine?"
McNeff then says the quiet part about how the arrest felt on his end:
McNeff: "I don't know what has been done since he was arrested yesterday. Like, we all sighed a big sigh of relief this morning knowing that he was arrested last night. And then to have this happen all over again. Like everyone's feeling some pretty significant trauma that he's just not going to stop." (7:20)
The officer, to his credit in Charlie's telling, redirects him:
Officer: "So it's not the police or corrections that let him out. That's going to be a judge, right? And so that would be a complaint that would have to be directed towards their office."
McNeff's next line is to ask for a pen and the contact details. Charlie: "What's a judge to someone like Ammon McNeff? Ammon McNeff outranks a judge. The judge should be answering to him."
Another officer's summary, on the recording: "We tried to keep him in jail until his court case for a month, but the judge let him out. So don't complain to me, complain to the judge."
Officer Abrams, and the stacking
The audio moves to a different officer, who identifies himself on the recording as Abrams with the Orem Police Department, calling the jail to find out about the release. Before that handoff there is a line Charlie flags as significant, from the officer working with McNeff:
Officer: "I'll try to stack it on this stalking case." (10:35)
Charlie reads that as an officer volunteering to keep reaching for additional charges on McNeff's behalf, and it is the beginning of his central complaint about the policing in this case. His phrasing for the general dynamic is cruder than reprintable, but the substance is that departments in this story appear willing to do whatever Ammon McNeff asks, in a way they do not extend to the other side.
Then the officer and McNeff meet in person, and McNeff escalates again:
McNeff: "He shouldn't be doing this stuff. You know what I mean? All five of them should be charged." (12:13)
Charlie's translation: not only should the ringleader go to jail for trying to serve court papers, so should all five of the people who came along, "and anyone that tries to take you to court, we're going to put them in jail indefinitely." He notes the officer seems enthusiastic about the idea, and then makes the point that carries the most weight in part one:
"This officer has nothing from Ammon other than his fanfic that he keeps spinning. But I guess that's good enough." (12:50)
Which brings up the allegation McNeff has made repeatedly, on camera, across the entire saga:
McNeff: "They started threatening to kill some of the staff. They were just like, hey, if you don't, we're going to kill you if you don't get this guy his money back." (12:30)
Charlie's response is the most careful thing he says in the whole segment, and it is worth quoting exactly because it is a claim about the evidentiary record rather than a joke:
"There is not a single shred of video, audio, anything to support Ammon's claims that there were threats being made on the lives of Bricks and Minifigs employees on behalf of Ben and his team. But he keeps saying it over and over and over again. He has to have said that like a hundred times, even though he's never provided a shred, not even an iota of evidence to support that." (13:20)
"Benjamin Schneider, Ohio"
The strangest passage in part one, and the one Charlie takes least lightly. McNeff, still on camera with the officer, does some amateur profiling:
McNeff: "If you look him up again, he goes by the name of YouTube, okay, and he films himself doing illegal things all the time and then he gets his videos taken down. Do all sorts of research on him. That's what we're dealing with, is a guy who honest to goodness he's a sociopath. As we've done some additional searches on him, it appears that a relative of his, because he's originally from Ohio and then he moved to LA, some relative of his with the same name, that based on what we can piece together was convicted of like child porn or child sexual contact, some of these other types of things. So there's a very real chance that he may have been abused as a child, but that set him through a mental disorder, kind of whatever the case may be. He's clearly a sociopath." (15:00)
Ben's on camera response is measured to the point of being disarming:
"My whole family's pretty close and I'm like 99.999999999% sure that's not true. But if it is true, I would like to know who that is. Because that's probably important information for me, if there is someone in my family that's like that." (15:30)
Ben's team then finds the likely source. A news item read out over the footage:
"Athens man is sentenced after he was found guilty of 110 felony counts for recording and distributing child pornography from his home. Benjamin Schneider is sentenced to 8 years in prison." (16:32)
"So yeah, I guess this guy also got charged in Ohio and he has a very similar name to me. It's actually the exact same name as me." (16:45)
So the chain, as Charlie reconstructs it: a name typed into a search bar, an unrelated man in Athens, Ohio with the same name and a horrific conviction, an assumed family relationship, and from that an assumed history of childhood abuse, offered to a police officer as part of a profile. Charlie's summary: "Ammon stared into the abyss and he did some painstaking research of typing in Ben Schneider. But even that wasn't enough. Ammon goes the extra mile. He typed in Ben Schneider, Ohio." And then, dropping the bit entirely: "You're insane. You're an actual lunatic. You know that, Ammon?"
He also flags, in passing, that eight years is not enough for the actual Ohio offender, and that the sentence deserves revisiting. That is one of two moments in the compilation where he steps outside the case entirely.
"Would you go get a shotgun and bring it in the store?"
The last body cam beat, and the one that made headlines on its own. McNeff, to the officer:
McNeff: "That's what makes us very scared, because again, and I'm kind of asking a serious question: in your opinion, would you go get a shotgun and bring it in the store?" (17:53)
Ben's read, over the footage, is that this is groundwork:
"I think what he's trying to do is because Josh Johnson said he was going to shoot us just for trying to serve him papers." (18:07)
Charlie develops the same reading and states it as an inference, not a fact. The construction he describes: establish on the record that the company is in fear, that threats have been made, that a dangerous man is loose, and then ask a police officer whether arming the store is reasonable. "He's laying the groundwork for this self defense angle. He's trying to just plant that seed."
The officer answers:
Officer: "A little scary, but in a situation like this where some people we feel like are in danger, I personally encourage people who are able to carry legally to carry." (18:56)
Ben closes the video by connecting the footage to what happened next:
"So that's basically all the footage after I got arrested of them freaking out. And I think that kind of explains why, because a few hours later we do the GoFundMe. Sheldon gets arrested just for promoting this GoFundMe. And then they sent a whole SWAT team of police officers to my house to just arrest everyone." (19:00)
Charlie's wrap at 19:18 is honest about what the segment does and does not establish. It does not change the underlying scandal. It is additional insight into how McNeff conducts himself with officers, and how many separate mechanisms he reached for to keep Ben and his crew in custody. He signs off noting that Ben is still in active litigation, still publishing, and that Charlie remains "very glued to this story."
Part two: the endgame, and real court audio
21:14 to 1:05:25. Source: "LEGO Scandal is Reaching the Endgame", 9 July 2026.
The ball gag comes out
Charlie's framing for this one is that the case is entering its final act, and that the name will outlive the case.
"It looks like the Lego scandal is finally reaching its conclusion in what has been an extraordinary case filled to the brim with corruption, confusion, more going on than Game of Thrones. Bricks and Minifigs is forever going to be a name that lives in infamy, I imagine, from this point forward." (21:16)
The reason Part 3 was late: Ben had been legally barred from publishing about the company. Charlie's phrasing is "Reckless Ben was muzzled and unable to release part three for a while, but he recently had the ball gag taken out of his mouth." (21:37)
"I don't even know what I did wrong"
Part 3 opens with Ben walking into court on his own.
"I'm about to go to court and I don't even know what I did wrong. Right now, I kind of don't even know what I'm being charged for, because all of the body cam footage has been redacted and they say it's to protect the victims. However, there are some redactions that maybe don't make sense and that weren't to protect the victims, and there's some things being said about me that are redacted that I don't know about." (21:51)
Ben requested the court audio and had an animator build visuals for it, so what plays next is real recorded proceedings rather than reconstruction. He is representing himself.
Charlie flags the self representation immediately and does not sugarcoat it:
"That is like the biggest blunder historically. That is usually ill advised, not just from legal experts, but basically anyone would tell you that representing yourself is a death sentence." (22:30)
It becomes the recurring structural note of part two. Almost every bad outcome Charlie walks through, he attaches the same caveat: a lawyer would probably have stopped this.
The state's argument about YouTube
Then the court audio, and the argument that got the widest circulation. The prosecution, to the judge:
"I do have some concern in this case with the defendant representing himself. The allegations here relate to the fact that the defendant, he's a person who, he's a YouTuber who creates videos, publishes them online, and if this defendant were to represent himself and we were to provide body cams and discovery, we would be now providing additional information and fodder for this defendant to create videos from which he could profit by placing them on YouTube at the expense of our victim. I have serious concerns for that." (23:15)
Ben's summary of it:
"The state of Utah is claiming that if they tell me what I'm being accused of, then I'll use it for content on my YouTube channel, and they can't have that. They're arguing to the judge that the best thing to do is to not let me know what's being said about me, which is very strange, but that's their argument." (23:40)
Charlie prefaces his own reaction with the running joke about his credentials, and it lands:
"Now, you'll be shocked to hear this. I hope you're sitting down, because if not, it's going to knock you off your feet. And I don't know if I've ever actually said this out loud. So brace for impact. I am not a lawyer." (24:03)
Then the substantive question, which he asks honestly rather than rhetorically. If a defendant's social media presence is grounds for withholding discovery, where does that stop? "Couldn't you make that argument for anyone that has any social media, which is basically everyone on the planet at this point? Yeah, we've decided that it's too dangerous to be giving information to this individual here because they have a TikTok account." He explicitly says he does not know whether this is standard procedure, and guesses that the self representation is what made the argument possible at all.
The judge signs. The audio:
Judge: "The court's inclined to sign this pre-trial protective order unless you have an objection to it, Mr. Schneider." (25:45)
Schneider: "Yes. I think there's a bunch of misunderstandings in this case. And so this person doesn't want to get exposed. So he's making up a lot of lies about me in order to get me arrested before he gets exposed."
Judge: "Mr. Schneider, the court's going to sign this order and serve it upon you."
Ben, over it: "Before I was allowed to show any of the overwhelming evidence I have to support my claims, the judge didn't care about the evidence and signed the protective order."
Two cities, two departments
Ben then explains the geography, which matters for everything that follows. The American Fork case is one thing. There is a second case in Provo, where Bricks & Minifigs corporate is headquartered. And the Provo Police Department, unlike the other, complied with discovery and sent him the raw body cam.
"This police department has surprisingly actually followed the law when it comes to discovery. And they sent me all the raw body cam footage of what I'm being charged for." (27:02)
What that footage contains is the origin call. Ben and his crew had gone to corporate to raise the missing collection directly. The clip:
Ben, to McNeff: "Like $200,000 worth of Legos in your store."
McNeff: "Nope. Never happened."
And then, per Ben, McNeff went inside and dialled 911.
McNeff, on the call: "Hi there. I'm calling to report a crime." (27:32)
McNeff: "They themselves say, hey, you guys stole this product from this person. If you don't give it back, I'm going to burn the place down, or we're going to burn the place down, or I'll kill you. It's Ben Schneider who's been the one engaged in this behavior."
Ben, over it:
"You can see in the police report that the crime he wanted to get us charged for is called extortion, which basically means we're threatening him into paying us, which is very illegal. However, obviously he's just making all of this up. The reality is I just thought it was a nice gesture to give him the opportunity to do the right thing first." (28:10)
Charlie's reaction is the "holy Toledo, heavens to Betsy" line, and then a point aimed squarely at anyone considering doing business with the company:
"This is who's running the business. This is who is at the top of the food chain sitting on the throne at Bricks and Minifigs. A guy who, if you take a problem to him, might turn around and call the police and accuse you of threatening to kill him, and try and charge you with extortion, if you have an issue and are trying to directly communicate with him to get it solved amicably." (29:00)
Two cases, one of which moved
Ben's plan was straightforward: he had raw footage of the entire encounter, elevator to elevator, showing no threats of any kind. So he filed his own case against McNeff for filing a false report, and submitted all of it.
Then nothing happened. The audio of him chasing it:
Ben, on the phone: "My name is Ben Schneider. A couple months ago I made a case and you were the officer that was helping me create it. I submitted a bunch of evidence through a link you sent me, and this was a couple months ago and I haven't heard anything back, and so I'm just calling to see if I can get some type of update on how the case is going." (32:00)
Recording: "We're sorry, your call cannot be completed."
"Literally no matter what I tried, I could not get a hold of this police officer. Eventually I did find an answer. They sent it to me in the mail, and looks like I was right. The police only had time to take on one of our cases, and it was Ammon's, not mine. Yes, the case that had an overwhelming amount of evidence: they thought that case was garbage, and they took on the case that has zero evidence at all." (32:40)
Charlie notes Ben went to the department in person as well, was told the officer was unavailable and that no update could be provided, and left with nothing until the letter arrived. And here he repeats the caveat: a lawyer setting up that case probably could not have been brushed off the same way, "because there is very real, very compelling, very substantial evidence from Ben's camp proving that he never threatened Ammon McNeff's life or anything like that."
Figure 3. The asymmetry Charlie keeps circling. Both cases were opened with the same departments. The one carrying continuous video went unanswered and was declined by mail. The one carrying a verbal account was reworked onto a statute that fit and proceeded as a felony.
"We do want to help you guys"
The call that produced the right hand column of that diagram is on the body cam Provo released, and it is the single most quoted piece of audio in the whole compilation. An officer, having reviewed Ben's footage, tells McNeff:
Officer: "We agreed that there really was no extortion code that would fit your situation. However, you know, at the end of the day, we do want to help you guys so you're not having to deal with this fool and all of his issues. We did find that there was another code that fit, and it's called aggravated commercial obstruction." (34:15)
Charlie's response, and this is him at his most direct in the entire compilation:
"Come on, how is that permissible? This is just blatant bare naked corruption here. The officer on the phone, she even says, yeah, it doesn't match your accusation of extortion, so how about we change your accusation a bit so that way we can make it work. That's messed up. Why are you going out of your way to try and make a case for this guy who has already just showed that he was wrong about an accusation?" (35:00)
The call keeps going, and the officer starts building the elements out loud:
Officer: "However, the tricky thing is that we have to prove that this individual either entered or remains unlawfully on the premise. When he came to the property, did you have to ask him more than once to leave?" (36:00)
McNeff: "Yes. You know, we're not leaving until we get it. And he's like, no."
Charlie: "So luckily she was helping Ammon build the case here on this new claim. I don't know if this, excuse me, the officer, it's basically Ammon McNeff's lawyer at this point, to be honest, the way she's fighting for him."
What actually happened when they were asked to leave
Ben then does the thing that makes this segment work: he plays the footage of the thing being described.
The sequence, as documented:
McNeff: "You can leave. If you come back here, we will call the cops. If you don't leave right now, I will call the cops." (37:26)
Ben: "So you don't want to do the easy way."
Ben explains that the "easy way or the hard way" line, which McNeff then treats as a threat, was about taking him to court:
McNeff: "So you're threatening me?"
Ben: "I'm not threatening. We're right, we have a right to the Lego. So we're going to get them the easy way."
McNeff: "What proof of ownership have you provided to me that you own this Lego?"
Ben: "I mean, I can give you proof if you want."
McNeff: "Right. Provide proof."
Which, as Ben points out, is an instruction to stay. He could not leave at that moment because he had just been asked to produce something. Then at the end of the conversation:
McNeff: "Okay. If you've been asked to leave, please leave." (38:10)
Ben: "We have to leave. Yes. Okay. Well, thank you for working with us, and so see you later."
They left. Ben gives McNeff credit on one point: about halfway through, McNeff did say that if they did not leave he would call the police. That is on the record and Ben says so.
Now the version McNeff gives the officer:
McNeff: "Guys, at this point, I've asked you to leave. Please leave. Well, we like, you have to listen to us. You have to pay us this money. No, guys, you need to leave, and you're not leaving. But I asked multiple times. They did not leave. I thought that might be a second degree felony." (38:34)
Charlie catches something in the officer's response that he cannot get past:
"The officer can't even hide her giggle. You can literally hear her smile through the phone here, because she gets to do something good for Ammon McNeff. I don't get it. Why is she kind of giddy about it? That's wild to me." (38:50)
His own assessment of the leaving question is measured, and he concedes the half point:
"I understand, like, yeah, he was asked to leave and didn't instantly leave. But also Ammon continued the conversation, and then when he did ask the second time, they left. They didn't put up a fuss about it. They left. And from all of the available evidence here, it doesn't seem like they made some kind of crazy stance like, no, we're not leaving, the way Ammon is describing it." (39:20)
The world's smallest violin
At 40:00 Charlie moves to what he calls the company's default posture: professed goodwill, contradicted by the record. McNeff, in an interview:
McNeff: "We've tried to share those with Mr. Mansell in hopes that he can see that we were not attempting in any way, shape or form to withhold anything. Those then were offered to him, and the initial offer was rejected. One priority right now is to ensure that he gets made whole. We know that we have a responsibility to work with him to make sure he does get made whole." (41:10)
Charlie's problem with it is not the sentiment, it is the simultaneity:
"It's important we remember they are actively in a lawsuit that names Bryan Mansell in a $1.3 million lawsuit, by the way. So you care so much about making him whole that you'll go through an aggressive legal strategy in order to smite him. Huh, Ammon? Is that right?" (42:33)
Coffeezilla's written framing gets quoted here too, and it is the sentence that best sums up the entire business story:
"Unfortunately, Bricks and Minifigs has chosen to deflect and dodge responsibility at most opportunities and created a really awful Customer experience that has snowballed into this crazy series of events. But instead of taking accountability for that, they've taken an aggressive legal strategy, which I told them personally was a horrible idea. As of writing this, Bryan Mansell is being sued for 1.3 million as part of a legal campaign against him and Reckless Ben and any of the associates." (43:05)
The email chain
The company's narrative, as stated on camera by multiple people:
McNeff and others: "Would you be willing to just take this? And the answer was no. It was attempted to be given to the family and it was refused. They made the offer and said, hey, you can have all this, and that offer was not accepted at the time." (43:52)
Ben's counter is documentary. Bryan Mansell hired an attorney immediately, and the correspondence is on screen, from the bottom up:
The attorney emails asking how to proceed to retake possession of the sets and minifigures. Bricks & Minifigs replies saying they are willing to help. (44:20)
Then silence.
The attorney follows up: when can we pick up the sets? Silence again.
The attorney writes a third time: it has now been 16 days. How can we get these Legos back?
Finally a reply arrives: "Brandon Best and Joshua Johnson have no legal obligation to return any of the Lego product that exists in their store to you."
And the close: "We consider this matter closed and will not be returning any Lego products to you." (45:40)
Charlie's reaction is sarcasm on the surface and evidence underneath: "You mean that they were not actually willing to work with Bryan despite what Ammon McNeff said? What do you mean that the proof contradicts that statement? What's next, you going to tell me dog waste smells like poop?"
And then the Fox appearance, which Ben cuts directly against that chain:
McNeff, on air: "So they actually did have an attorney send information to us. We said, great, appreciate this, let's see what we can do to work this out. And then we never heard back." (46:03)
Charlie's whole commentary on that is two words plus a reaction: "Telling lies, Ammon." His genuine puzzlement is about the strategy rather than the ethics: "I don't know why Ammon keeps doing all these interviews when there is plenty of information to instantly contradict his statements. He himself contradicts his statements. He is always flip flopping and just looking like a damn fool, but he keeps doing it."
This is where he brings in Coffeezilla's overall verdict, which he endorses, including the part that cuts against Ben:
"There have been mistakes on all sides for how this case has been handled. But it is a masterclass in deflection and bad decisions from Bricks and Minifigs that has just completely torched their entire brand and reputation, because of this unwillingness to actually try and get things solved." (46:38)
He also lays out what he thinks the actual solvable problem was, and it is small: read the inventory sheet you already have access to, work out what the previous franchisee sold and failed to mark down, and settle. "This was something they could have probably handled promptly. But instead they chose this."
The email was a trap
Ben's next claim is one Charlie flags as sounding paranoid right up until the receipt appears:
"I'm now starting to think that the only reason Ammon wanted us to email him about the inventory list wasn't actually to give us the inventory list. It was a trap. Ammon only wanted me to email him so he can find out my email and subpoena Google and find out all of my private information. And you think I'm lying, but they actually did this." (48:52)
What was returned, per Ben: hundreds of hours of raw footage from everything he had filmed for the Lego videos so far, all of his emails, his search history, and location metadata.
The immediate consequence shows up on the next piece of body cam, where an officer who has watched Ben's first episode is chatting about it:
Officer: "I'm really curious to see if this guy even makes any money doing this YouTube stuff. Like, if it's enough for him to travel. I didn't even know you could do that. To another state just to go get some footage. It doesn't even sound like his secret information seems credible, from my understanding." (49:26)
Ben notes that "secret information" appears to mean the security camera footage. Charlie's read: "It really does seem like they're best buddies here. It smells kind of, reeks of something fishy afoot."
RICO, and a sniper on the hill
Two of the wilder allegations, back to back.
Ben: "Bricks and Minifigs is also getting me for RICO charges." (50:47)
Charlie's aside: "I think it is more likely that the police are guilty of RICO." Ben adds a note about the CEO's business history: "If you look at the CEO's previous businesses, he actually got sued for RICO. He's the one guilty of RICO, not me."
And then:
Ben: "They're also accusing me of sending a sniper to shoot out the windows of the McNeff house." (51:02)
The body cam of that scene:
A McNeff: "You guys want to come too? You can see the window and see where they were shooting from. It could be a sniper up on the hill." (51:08)
And the officers' conclusion:
"Seems more likely that it happened from construction work than it happened from some random people across the way." (51:15)
Ben: "When the police got there, they realized it was actually a construction worker who accidentally shattered the window. But even after all this, they still go online and say it was me."
Charlie then reads the post in full, from Dan McNeff, and it is where the family history surfaces:
"Today's version of a lynch mob could very well be YouTube investigators. At one point 6 years ago, I was the CEO of Bricks and Minifigs. My sons illegally removed me from that position and sued me for control of another company I founded. I have had nothing to do with Bricks and Minifigs since then. Regardless of this, in the last 10 days, I've been given multiple death threats. And two days ago, we saw people viewing our home from a hill behind our home with binoculars, and they shot out a big picture window that will cost thousands to replace." (52:13)
Charlie's takeaway from the post is not the window. It is the first three sentences: "Even his dad has been on the receiving end of his diabolical rampage of filth."
The post also makes a point Charlie has been making all along and endorses immediately: the individual Bricks & Minifigs locations are independently owned and operated and did not do this.
"The Bricks and Minifigs locations, these franchises out there, don't have anything to do with what's happening in this case in particular. They are also probably just as upset as everyone else, because that is really hurting their business, because now no one is trusting Bricks and Minifigs, rightfully so, because the corporation, the headquarters, had proven to be very unsavory and very untrustworthy. And that is hurting the normal people that operate some of these locations, and that sucks. I feel terrible for them." (53:00)
He also names the actual harm from that misdirection, and he is blunt that some people got it wrong: some individuals have gone into random Bricks & Minifigs stores and physically fought staff. "There are some people that are a little lost in the sauce there."
The photo lineup
A short scene, but Ben's argument about it is sharp. Police put him through a formal double blind photo lineup procedure:
Officer: "We call this the double blind. The person who committed the crime may or may not be in the lineup or depicted. So I will give this to you. You'll have as much time as you need to choose someone or to not choose anyone." (54:56)
McNeff, after: "This was like the final step that I needed. This is legit, that we've been able to verify who he is now." (55:30)
Ben's objection:
"The police put on this big performance to make it look like they're going to all this work to verify the facts, when in reality they already know who I am. They already subpoenaed Google. They already watched my entire first Lego video. They already went through all my search history. To me, this just feels like a stage performance so they can show the world, hey look, we verified everything. When if they would have just put an equal amount of effort into watching the raw footage I submitted to them, they would have found out that Ammon's just completely lying to them." (55:45)
Charlie calls it "a totally fair and legitimate thing to point out," and here he adds the observation that complicates his own lawyer caveat:
"Yes, you can chalk that up to Ben not having a lawyer, but it also doesn't seem like Ammon is bringing his lawyer to these things either. They are talking directly to Ammon himself, not Ammon's legal representative. So why are they willing to extend this courtesy of working directly with Ammon but not directly with Ben?" (56:30)
"I have not watched it. No."
The prosecutor scene is the low point of part two, and it is on the record.
Prosecutor: "I'm the prosecutor. Is Benjamin Schneider here? If you want to take care of that today, we could do what we call a plea in abeyance." (57:16)
Ben: "Were you able to see the footage I submitted to the police of our interaction?"
Prosecutor: "I have not watched it. No."
Ben: "Okay. Because in that footage, you can clearly see that the second he tells us to leave, we say, okay, we'll leave. And then he calls the police and said that we threatened to burn down the building and shoot everyone inside. And he was just making up all these lies, which you can clearly see in the footage that we submitted. We were being respectful the whole time. We left the second he told us to."
Prosecutor: "Sorry, let me look."
Then Ben explains his read of the motive on the record: "I'm a documentary maker, so I'm making a documentary on the thing. So his logic is, if he makes up a reason for me to go to jail, then I won't be able to expose them for their crimes."
And the prosecutor's response to the footage he has not watched:
Prosecutor: "Obviously a video doesn't necessarily show everything that possibly happened." (59:30)
Charlie:
"That statement from the opposing side about, well, a video doesn't necessarily show everything that happened, is crazy considering he hasn't even watched the footage yet. So why are you already coping? It sounds like they probably know that it does show the whole scope of the situation." (59:45)
Ben's summary of where that leaves him:
"Not only am I being charged with a bunch of mystery crimes in American Fork, Utah, but I'm also being charged with a second degree felony, up to 15 years in jail, in Provo, Utah. And now that they have written proof that I'm committing all of these insane crimes against them, obviously Bricks and Minifigs just made up everything, but that's not how the court sees it. The court thinks that these are real. And for whatever reason, the court wouldn't let me share my side. They only heard Bricks and Minifigs' side." (1:00:26)
The line Ben quotes about the order that removed his videos:
"Ben's side was not in the room. Was not heard. The court signed an order erasing his published work on the strength of the company's verified complaint and the company's motion, with no one there to say a word against it." (1:00:46)
Charlie's response here is the closest part two gets to a thesis. He concedes the criticisms of Ben's methods, and then refuses to let them do the work the state is asking them to do:
"You can point to some of the stunts that Ben did in some of the videos and say, maybe this was pushing it too far, or maybe this was counterproductive to getting things solved. And I think that's a fine critique to have. I think that's very valid. But you should also be able to recognize that he does have very real evidence for his innocence in the face of some of the claims made against him from Bricks and Minifigs that are just outrageous. And those things should be seen, viewed, and actually analyzed by the system here, instead of just rejected based on the merit of his accuser." (1:01:40)
The point in dispute
What was asserted, and by whom
What the tape or the paper showed
Ben's criminal history
Ammon McNeff, to an officer: arrested in California in 2024 for trespassing and similar, "multiple arrests in different states"
disputed Ben states on camera, three times, that serving those court papers was the first arrest of his life, and points officers to his record
Threats to kill staff
Ammon McNeff, repeatedly, on body cam and in interviews
no exhibit Charlie: no video, no audio, nothing has been produced. Ben's own footage runs elevator to elevator
The alleged threat to burn the building
Ammon McNeff, in a 911 call, reported as extortion
not chargeable An officer, after reviewing: "there really was no extortion code that would fit your situation"
Refusing to leave the premises
Ammon McNeff: "I asked multiple times. They did not leave. I thought that might be a second degree felony"
partly The tape shows the first request came mid conversation and McNeff then asked for proof, keeping them there. On the second request they left immediately
The attorney contact
Ammon McNeff, on Fox: "we said great, let's see what we can do to work this out. And then we never heard back"
contradicted The email chain shows two unanswered follow ups, a 16 day gap, then "no legal obligation to return any of the Lego product" and "we consider this matter closed"
The offer that was refused
Bricks & Minifigs: an offer of the remaining inventory was made to the family and turned down
contradicted Same email chain: the reply that actually arrived was a refusal to return anything
The shot out window
A McNeff, on camera: "it could be a sniper up on the hill"
resolved Officers on scene concluded a construction worker broke it. The public post blaming the other side went up anyway
The U-Haul on 14 Nov 2024
Bricks & Minifigs, emphatically: a rental car, "not in a U-Haul", and "you won't see a U-Haul sitting anywhere in the parking lot"
contradicted Coffeezilla brightened an existing photograph and found a U-Haul in the lot that night. The account then changed
The inventory spreadsheet
Ammon McNeff: corporate never received it, and only saw it online months later
contradicted The file's own properties, read to him on camera: owner [email protected], owned by BAM Franchising Inc, created 6 September 2024
Value of the collection
Store publicity and press: "well over $200,000"
revised Coffeezilla's appraisal from the inventory: about $107,000. The franchisee's own spreadsheet ballpark: $85,000 to $120,000
Figure 4. Claim against record, restricted to points where the compilation actually shows the underlying footage, email or document. Every entry here is attributed to the person who said it.
Freedom of speech, and the chicken dance
The end of Part 3, and the reason it exists at all.
Ben: "Because I have my freedom of speech back, baby. I can say whatever I want. I can say Bricks and Minifigs sucks. And look, I just said it. I'm not in jail, which is sick. We got our First Amendment rights back." (1:03:06)
And then the demand, which is the funniest thing in the compilation and also, once he explains it, a serious point:
Ben: "Everyone is wondering how Bricks and Minifigs can make up for the fact that they made up all these lies about me to take away my freedom of speech. They can say that they're sorry by doing the chicken dance. And I will take that as a sincere form of apology. And once they do the chicken dance, then I will know that Bricks and Minifigs is sorry and we can finally move on to the next video series." (1:03:31)
Charlie explains the logic, because it is not just a bit: "His reasoning is that they always say these nice things, the right things they'll say, but they never actually do the right thing. So he wants to see their actions reflect it, which is why he wants them to actually do the chicken dance."
Then Charlie fills in the mechanism, since Ben skipped it. He is careful to flag that this is his own research rather than something from the video:
"From what I've read, this case moved up from state to federal court. And in federal court, it's very different. So a federal judge came in and ruled that he is allowed to talk about these things because it is a part of commentary and investigative journalism. It is explicitly commentary and investigative journalism. Thus he is allowed to say these things and post this video within reason. He can't just say anything at all willy nilly. It does need to come from a standpoint of being an investigative journalist." (1:04:28)
Part three: Coffeezilla does the math
1:05:25 to 1:46:33. Source: the back forty one minutes of "I Finally Caught Up with the LEGO Scandal", 17 June 2026.
This is the segment where the story stops being about personalities and becomes about arithmetic. Charlie is walking through Coffeezilla's investigation, which is the only work anyone has done with the actual point of sale records and the actual inventory spreadsheet.
The U-Haul that did not exist
The first thread. On the night of 14 November 2024, did Brandon Best arrive at the Salem store in a U-Haul?
Bricks & Minifigs: "Brandon showed up to the Salem store in a rental car. When he came to get the keys from Chrystal, he was there in a rental car, not in a U-Haul." (1:06:07)
Why it matters: Coffeezilla was contacted by a former employee of the Bricks & Minifigs store in Eugene, Oregon, the location Brandon Best and Josh Johnson also owned. That employee's account, on the recording:
Former employee: "I'm a former employee, started in 2024. I was working under the old manager Brian. He sold the store to Brandon Best and Josh. Josh said, oh, Chrystal stole Lego sets and bolted out of the country." (1:06:27)
Coffeezilla: "Who says that?"
Former employee: "Brandon. Brandon Best told us when he was dumping off all the Lego sets to us that night. It was a bunch of used Lego sets that were saran wrapped. They had Star Wars, City. Just a lot of stuff. It was like a medium sized U-Haul truck."
Coffeezilla: "Wait, wait, wait. They brought a U-Haul truck?"
Former employee: "Yeah. From Salem to Eugene. Star Wars sets and everything. A bunch of new stuff too."
(The "old manager Brian" in that account is the previous manager of the Eugene store, a different person from Bryan Mansell.)
Charlie stresses that Coffeezilla verified this person's employment: "Coffeezilla did his due diligence, from everything I can tell, to confirm this really is an employee who worked where he said he worked, which was at that Eugene location with Brandon and Josh as the owners."
So now there is a direct conflict. Corporate says no U-Haul. The Gormans say U-Haul. A former Eugene employee says a U-Haul arrived full of saran wrapped Star Wars sets. Charlie: "If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, probably a U-Haul."
Bricks & Minifigs doubled down:
Bricks & Minifigs: "If you were to look at the footage, the ring cameras, all that stuff, you won't see a U-Haul sitting anywhere in the parking lot." (1:08:30)
Brighten the photograph
Coffeezilla's account of solving it is the single best piece of process in part three:
"So I just got to find the evidence. I start sifting through these photos I have. I realize I have a parking lot photo. I check it. No U-Haul, just a red truck out there. I check another photo where you can see the window, but the problem is it's night outside, so you can't see. And so I'm looking at everything I can and there's just nothing. I have this alternate angle. I'm looking at that and then, wait a minute. Zoom in on that photo. Bring up the brightness of this photo a little bit. And my gosh, there's a U-Haul in the parking lot right outside of the store the night of November 14th, 2024." (1:09:15)
Charlie's line for it: "Is this not Coffeezilla just reaching over to deliver the scholar's mate here on that claim of no U-Haul?" And he immediately frames the interesting question, which is not whether the U-Haul existed but what the company would do next: deny it in the face of the photo, or feign ignorance.
The camper trailer
They picked a third option. Coffeezilla, on camera:
"Last night, I talked with Matt McNeff. I brought up this question of the U-Haul. He told me emphatically there was no U-Haul. Y'all came to me this morning. You said, hey, we looked into it, there actually was a U-Haul there that night. Can you clear up what that's about?" (1:11:30)
Ammon McNeff: "So there's actually two different things that are going on here, just to help you understand."
The explanation Charlie then relays, and he is openly incredulous relaying it. Per McNeff: the U-Haul was there for something entirely separate, a disgruntled former employee matter and some mishandled inventory, and the Eugene employee is misremembering the timeline. The Star Wars sets in the U-Haul were from that other problem, not this one, and Best was handling both at once.
And then the mechanism:
McNeff: "So then what happens is he takes his rental vehicle truck and he tries to connect the camping trailer to that truck, and it's not rated for that particular weight, and he realized, oh crap. He called around and found that a U-Haul had a rating for one of their box trucks. And so he grabbed that, went and got it at 10:00 a.m. on the 14th, and so he then hooked that camping trailer up to a U-Haul, drove that trailer down to another location where he could set up the camping trailer in Salem, dropped off the camper trailer, and then he arrived in a U-Haul to the Salem store." (1:12:59)
The camper was, per McNeff, acquired in anticipation of a potential hostile takeover.
"The amount of and then, it's like he's writing fanfiction live. I'm taking a peek inside the writer room here. He's talking about all of this as if he was a force ghost on this guy's shoulders, watching him do all of it. By the way, the story he is telling, I can't fathom a human being doing. It's just so messy and sloppy and convoluted." (1:13:45)
Coffeezilla's own resolution of it is documentary, not rhetorical: he obtained the U-Haul documentation and Brandon's photos from that night, and the timings in McNeff's account are not physically possible. Charlie relays it: "The timing is just not feasible. It literally cannot happen the way in which it's described."
And Charlie spoils the payoff himself, which is the honest thing to do:
"Now, I'll go ahead and spoil that the U-Haul plotline doesn't get us anywhere closer to finding the Legos. But I do think it is important because it illustrates their willingness to change their story or just outright tell a fib." (1:14:40)
What the collection was actually worth
Now the numbers. Coffeezilla obtained two sets of books:
From corporate: the point of sale records from the Salem store, 2023 to 2024.
From Chrystal Law-Gorman: her internal inventory of Bryan's collection, used to track what was sold or unsold in order to pay him.
The first finding kills the headline number:
Coffeezilla: "It's about $107,000." (1:19:11)
Charlie is careful with how he presents this, and repeats it twice because it matters:
"The original claim of this being a $200,000 Lego collection is just not true. It's highly inaccurate. It was used as marketing buzz online, from Bricks and Minifigs themselves as their marketing material. But according to all of what is available here, the actual estimated value is calculated to be around $107,000. Still an extremely valuable Lego collection, but that claim is just not accurate. It is still an extreme amount of money, but it is important to get things correct." (1:17:55)
He also adds the honest qualifier Coffeezilla gives: the number is nebulous because not everything has sold, so it could be a little more or a little less. It is just not fair to call it $200,000.
Where did $200,000 come from? Chrystal Law-Gorman explains it herself: she arrived at it by eyeballing, for a press release meant to be eye catching. Her own spreadsheet puts it in the $85,000 to $120,000 range.
Then the chain of arithmetic that produces the key figure:
Coffeezilla: "Between 2023 and 2024, the Gormans record sales of about $24,000 of Bryan's collection in their inventory tracking list. And of those sales, Bryan was entitled to about 65 to 70% of it. He was paid $17,000, which roughly tracks with that. Which means on November 14th, the big night, the remaining amount of Bryan's collection that should have been in there is about $82,000." (1:19:11)
Charlie explains why the correct number matters operationally, and it is a good point:
"If you're going to be trying to locate the missing Legos, you have to know what you're even looking for and how much you're looking for. Because if it's a $200,000 collection, there is a lot more out there in the wild needing to be found. But now that we have the accurate numbers, you can start to more fine tune the investigation to locate them." (1:20:00)
Against that $82,000, here is what Bricks & Minifigs said was in the building:
The official statement: only about $2,000 to $5,000 located. (1:20:21)
Ammon McNeff: only about $11,000 to $15,000 in total Star Wars at that location. (1:20:28)
Charlie: "How is that possible? We have the bookkeeping. There should have been $82,000 worth of Star Wars Lego sets from Bryan Mansell's collection there."
Two hundred photographs, hand tagged
Coffeezilla's method for testing that is the most labour intensive thing in the investigation:
Coffeezilla: "So I went through Chrystal's photos myself, which she shared with me, and hired people to go through and hand tag the Star Wars Legos that were in these photos. We looked through over 200 plus photos, multiple videos, and matched what we saw with Bryan's collection. In the end, I ended up with about $21,000 of Legos matching Bryan's collection that can be proven to be in the store on the night of November 14th." (1:21:03)
His own framing of the result, including both directions of error:
"To state the obvious, that's about three to five times what corporate estimated, at least on their press release. Now, yes, there are inherent errors in these estimates. Maybe we picked up some Lego that matched Bryan's collection but wasn't Bryan's. But even though this is a bigger number than corporate said, I have to admit, even with pretty generous assumptions being made, there's still a huge gap of about $61,000 here that I just couldn't find." (1:21:45)
Charlie's appreciation of the method is genuine: "I think that was a really clever way of doing things. He has so many photos from the Gormans, and he hired a team to go through manually, old natural, and tag them, so that way they could find the valuation of what is provably in the store on that night."
Figure 5. Every valuation in the story on one scale, as Charlie relays them from Coffeezilla's investigation. The headline $200,000 was a press release estimate. The record supports roughly $107,000 for the collection and $82,000 remaining on the night of the handover, of which $21,000 could be proven present in photographs.
The side deal that was still marked "storage"
Then the wrinkle that muddies everything. Coffeezilla:
"But then I learned Bryan had made a special side deal with M&R Productions, who had recently purchased some Legos from him. And this is where it starts to get messy. So these are the pictures that M&R Productions sent me, looking at the Lego that Bryan sold him. This was stuff reportedly in storage. And it's interesting because of an early inventory list which had a column called location that Chrystal used. And it listed a lot of the Star Wars items as being located in what they called storage. Now, previously I was told that all of the stuff in storage was put back in the store, but there's a bunch on this list that I can't find in the store that seem to appear in these pictures." (1:23:00)
And the check:
"Now, I've been assured that most of these Legos were not part of the inventory spreadsheet. They were never given to Bricks and Minifigs. This is a separate part of the collection. But I did a check, and 100% of the items that match the Bryan collection inventory just so happen to be listed with a location of storage. So this starts to make things incredibly fuzzy, and I'm inclined to believe that a lot of these are part of that same inventory list." (1:23:40)
Charlie's read is straightforward and he says so: "I think that's a very natural conclusion to draw from that." He explains why the "storage" designation is load bearing: per the Gormans, "storage" meant offsite but in their possession, brought back to the store and kept in the safes. Sets that had been sold to a third party cannot simultaneously be sitting in storage on the books.
Value of that bucket: about $15,000 in Lego that is not missing. It can be traced. It went to a buyer. It was just still marked as in storage on the sheet. Charlie: "which I believe is very inaccurate to say, and that is quite shady."
He also pauses at 1:25:12 to relay Coffeezilla's Patreon plug and endorse it in his own voice:
"Coffeezilla's work truly is incredible, and I highly recommend everyone go support him in any way you can. His investigations, I think, are among the best. Not only on YouTube, but just in general. He really does get to the bottom of his stories in a way that is very rare these days." (1:25:12)
The payment gap
Now the point of sale records, and the finding that cuts closest to Bryan Mansell personally:
Coffeezilla: "According to this, $51,000 worth of Bryan Mansell's collection was sold." (1:25:42)
Chrystal Law-Gorman had said something similar in an earlier conversation, that around $50,000 of the collection was sold. But Bryan Mansell has been paid $17,000.
Coffeezilla, to Bricks & Minifigs: "It was about 50 something thousand. But Bryan was only paid 17,000. And it should have been about double that."
Response: "Without seeing any of those records, without seeing those individual tickets, I can't answer that any better."
Charlie's line: "This is kind of a problem. The math ain't math in here. 65 to 70% of 50,000 is almost double what we believe Bryan was paid." And then, plainly: "He should be paid more. He is owed more. So where has that gone? Who came in and shook that lunch money out of him?"
Layaway
The explanation, in large part, turns out to be a retail mechanism.
Coffeezilla: "Digging into the details, it turns out a lot of these sales come from what Chrystal's spreadsheet actually categorizes as layaways, meaning they were marked as having been sold. But layaways are when someone puts a down payment on an item and later pays it off." (1:26:45)
Charlie's aside is the sound of anyone who has ever worked retail: "I imagine if any of you are familiar with layaways, you just rolled your eyes in a big way. That always ends in a lot of fuzziness, a lot of friction."
The amount involved: about $20,000 in layaway. Which prompted Coffeezilla to ask the incoming owner about it:
Coffeezilla: "I asked Josh Johnson, the incoming owner, and he responded, quote: they're worth two to three items on layaway when they took over." (1:27:28)
Chrystal Law-Gorman: "I haven't gone through and done a count, but I know it was vastly more than two to three. It was about 98." (1:27:43)
Two to three, against ninety eight. Chrystal explains the mechanics: layaway was extremely rare for them, she is not sure they had ever done it before this collection came in, and then it ran on down payments and instalments over roughly thirty days. And it got tangled:
Chrystal Law-Gorman: "Our Ewok Village was one of those cases. At some point he had like eight or nine different items on layaway. So they'd come in and make a bulk payment. You know, I've got 800 things on layaway, I'm going to make $100 on my payment. One customer in particular would do that, and then when he'd gotten up high enough to pay for one set, we'd pull that set out, mark it as sold." (1:29:14)
Coffeezilla's own confusion on the sheet is on camera: an entry marked layaway but showing a final sale price of $5.99 because it matched the store sale price. "So were they on layaway? Were they accidentally marked layaway on the spreadsheet? What's going on there?"
Chrystal repeatedly says the same honest thing: without the actual sales tickets she cannot give a better explanation.
The sales that never made it onto the sheet
The last finding, and the one Charlie calls the biggest.
Coffeezilla: "But I even found more than that in this POS data. I also found about $10,000 in sales that match Bryan's collection that were not marked as sold under this inventory spreadsheet." (1:30:19)
Chrystal's response, which Charlie treats as candid rather than evasive:
Chrystal Law-Gorman: "There is a possibility that the consignments were ended when I wasn't at work and I just didn't go through and pull them up. They didn't get put in the consignment ticket. I hadn't gone through those consignments in a couple of months. I hadn't gone through the inventory in the back room in a couple of months. So it is entirely possible there were sales that were finished that I never clocked as being finished." (1:30:55)
Coffeezilla: "But you're saying it's possible stuff was sold, not updated on this inventory list?"
Chrystal Law-Gorman: "It's entirely possible."
Charlie's assessment of what that means, and this is where the whole story finally has a mechanism rather than a villain:
"Now, that is a big stinky whoopsie if things from this collection are being sold and they're not being updated and Bryan is not getting paid because it's not getting updated. So they don't know that it's getting sold in the first place. You can see where we're having a big problem now. This bookkeeping is now seeming to be the most egregious catalyst to where this whole thing started, with this missing Lego collection and him not being properly paid for Legos that may have actually already been sold and aren't even missing." (1:31:30)
He adds the detail from the recording of the night Brandon Best came in and removed the Gormans: Chrystal explicitly flagged, on tape, that Bryan had not been paid everything he was owed, and was assured by a Bricks & Minifigs executive on the phone (whose name Charlie could not recall on camera) that the consignment liability would be taken on by the incoming franchisees. So the debt was named, out loud, on the handover night. (1:32:14)
Everyone is kind of right and kind of wrong
Coffeezilla's synthesis, quoted at length because it is the fairest paragraph in the compilation:
"Maybe you can chalk some of this up to bad recordkeeping, between the U-Haul, the layaways, the $20,000 in Lego sets that corporate called $2 to $5,000 that was there that night, the off book deals. But even if we can't fully know 100%, I think they tell a story of what actually happened to Bryan's collection. In a way, multiple people are kind of right, kind of wrong. The Gormans were correct that more of that collection was there that night of the takeover than previously thought, but corporate also alleged that some of it was offsite, and that appears to be partly true. Although some of that is disputed, and it looks like way more of the collection was sold and layawayed than Bryan was paid for. But all in all, there's a lot less missing than many people think, especially if your starting number is $200,000." (1:33:45)
Charlie endorses all of it, including the parts that go against the narrative he has been advancing:
"After watching this, it is extremely clear that from the very beginning there was not nearly as much missing as everyone thought going into this story. And yeah, Bricks and Minifigs seems to be liar, liar, plants for hire in a bunch of cases, sure. But their claim about the offsite stuff, yeah, Coffee's right. It does seem like on all available evidence that is true. Not just offsite and then brought back and put in the safe, but sold offsite to that other guy, the M&R." (1:34:40)
And on the Gormans, he refuses to guess at intent, which is the right call:
"It does look like a lot of this goes back to really terrible recordkeeping. I don't know whether that's malicious, like the Gormans were trying to scrape from the top or stiff Bryan and take the lion's share for themselves and use underhanded tactics for it, or if it really was just bad bookkeeping because they weren't very good at bookkeeping. It's hard to say for sure. I really don't know one way or the other on that. But the layaways and how they kept track of everything is clearly a huge issue that definitely made this situation significantly messier." (1:35:00)
The number that matters
Coffeezilla's estimate: Bryan Mansell is still owed roughly $50,000 to $83,000 in payments he should have received and has not. (1:35:40)
Charlie:
"That is the most important piece of all this. A man who's been really wronged on all sides here, it seems, is still owed this money from this conundrum, for Lego he wasn't compensated for. And honestly that's something that Bricks and Minifigs obviously should handle and make right. Regardless of what a franchisee does, the new one, the old one, the company behind it must stand behind their product, their service. And I can't imagine a better example of a company doing the opposite." (1:35:55)
Then the sentence that is really the moral of the whole hour and forty six minutes, and it is about the Customer rather than the villain:
"At the very core, Bryan Mansell is a Customer who attempted to use the Bricks and Minifigs service because he believed it was the gold standard and his best bet to sell his father's lifelong Star Wars collection for life changing money. And through this ended up getting completely shafted." (1:36:58)
He goes further on the point about avenues, and this is his defence of Ben's involvement:
"Yes, he went to Reckless Ben, where things really popped off. But what other avenues did he have? He couldn't fight them legally. There's even record of a Bricks and Minifigs higher up, someone that's not at the bottom of the food chain, on record on the phone, saying that they will just financially bleed them dry, talking to the Gormans. They'll draw it out in court and they'll lose more than they would have ever made should they win. Going the legal route for an ordinary citizen like Bryan Mansell is an extremely costly and not actually attainable path." (1:40:30)
And Coffeezilla's closing recommendation, quoted:
"Mistakes have been made by plenty of people here. But there's a lot more people who have inflicted self owns the likes of which we've rarely seen, by just choosing the worst possible path at every fork in the road. No pun intended. But the best path to making things right, in my view, is by just making Bryan whole and moving on." (1:39:04)
"Well, I had no idea"
The last scene of the compilation, and the one that makes Charlie shout.
Coffeezilla takes his conclusions to the parties. In the conversation with Ammon McNeff, the question of documentation comes up:
McNeff: "They were basically met with unreasonable requests, things like that." (1:42:03)
Coffeezilla: "Verification, documentation. Is that unreasonable, you think?"
McNeff: "Well, I think they would say they provided the documentation and you guys say you need more documentation."
Coffeezilla: "Right, a spreadsheet and a contract are a good start."
McNeff: "Yeah, but we never got that. That was never sent to us at corporate."
Coffeezilla: "Y'all do have the spreadsheet, though. Y'all have the spreadsheet."
McNeff: "That was shared online, but months after we asked for it."
And then Coffeezilla reads the file's own metadata back to him, live:
Coffeezilla: "I'm so confused. I'm on the file right now. It says storage used, owned by BAM Franchising Inc, owner [email protected]." (1:42:46)
McNeff: "What are you looking at?"
Coffeezilla: "Ammon, it says owner [email protected]. That's you guys. Says owned by BAM Franchising Inc. Says created September 6th, 2024. And when I look at it, this is the Mansell list, I believe."
McNeff: "So this would have been created under, like, so we have the, um, we..."
Coffeezilla: "Y'all definitely have this. Y'all have access to this."
McNeff: "Well, I had no idea." (1:43:55)
Charlie's response:
"Then you're dumb, Ammon. Then you're just stupid. How about that? And yet you continue to say, oh, they never even provided it. Well, you just don't know then, because you're too stupid to know." (1:44:00)
McNeff's fuller answer, which Charlie plays out:
McNeff: "If this is the first anybody has shown me that a spreadsheet was created using Bricks and Minifigs Salem, and all of this stuff was archived, this is the first I've seen that this spreadsheet was created by Chrystal, and we don't know how accurate it is, how up to date it was. We don't know a lot of those types of things. And I appreciate you sharing this with us, because we had no idea. Again, you don't know what you don't know, and we don't know everything and we don't go looking in every nook and cranny everywhere." (1:44:31)
Charlie's rebuttal is the sharpest business argument he makes all compilation, and it is not really an insult:
"Then you're a bad business. This isn't a good defense, Ammon. Oh, we just don't know, we actually don't keep track of any of this. You don't know what you don't know and you don't know your own business. Wake up. Use your head. You shouldn't be in the position you're in then. How does that in any way excuse anything of what's happened here? It's a terrible defense, especially when you keep trying to poke holes in other people's stories when you admittedly don't even keep track of your own. You don't even know what you have access to in the first place. So how could you even be approaching things to talk about them or opine on them?" (1:44:45)
He closes on the Gormans' own accountability, which is worth recording because it is the only party in the story who takes any:
"At the end, the Gormans also mentioned that they recognize that a lot of this falls on their shoulders for potentially bad bookkeeping, and that they're more than willing to take accountability for that and try to make it right, but they need the tickets from Bricks and Minifigs, which they said they would do." (1:45:40)
And the last words of the compilation:
"All in all, just another banger here from Coffeezilla in an incredible investigation, and can only hope that Bryan Mansell gets made whole here from Bricks and Minifigs and they actually pay him what he's owed. They need to make things right, and it starts with making him whole and dropping that lawsuit. Amazing work from Coffeezilla. Please go support him in any way you can. That's really about it. See you." (1:46:05)
Best quotes
On the premise:
"Season 31 of my life has been a pretty fun journey, but I didn't expect the writers to go in such a different direction with some of my interests." Charlie, 0:00
"It's like the Akatsuki from Naruto, but if they were not cool and just extraordinarily pathetic." Charlie on the Bricks & Minifigs leadership, 0:30
"God gave special care to the creation of Ammon. He said, I'm going to make the perfect twerp. And so he did." Charlie, 0:45
"If the truth left his lips it would light his whole mouth on fire. It'd be so unusual to his body it would cause some kind of visceral reaction internally." Charlie, 10:00
On the body cam:
"Do I need to go and get some of my staff armed so that he can't threaten them?" Ammon McNeff to police, 6:12
"In your opinion, would you go get a shotgun and bring it in the store?" Ammon McNeff to police, 17:53
"I personally encourage people who are able to carry legally to carry." The officer's answer, 18:56
"My first time getting arrested ever was for serving my court papers." Ben Schneider, 3:20
"My whole family's pretty close and I'm like 99.999999999% sure that's not true. But if it is true, I would like to know who that is." Ben Schneider on the Ohio theory, 15:30
On the courts:
"I'm about to go to court and I don't even know what I did wrong." Ben Schneider, 21:51
"We would be now providing additional information and fodder for this defendant to create videos from which he could profit." The prosecution arguing against discovery, 23:15
"I am not a lawyer. I know you can quit your screaming, creaming, crying, whining." Charlie, 24:03
"I have not watched it. No." The prosecutor, asked whether he had seen the footage, 57:16
"Obviously a video doesn't necessarily show everything that possibly happened." The prosecutor, about the footage he had not watched, 59:30
"Ben's side was not in the room. Was not heard." On the order that removed his videos, 1:00:46
On the police work:
"We agreed that there really was no extortion code that would fit your situation. However, we do want to help you guys so you're not having to deal with this fool. We did find that there was another code that fit." An officer to Ammon McNeff, 34:15
"The tricky thing is that we have to prove that this individual either entered or remains unlawfully on the premise." The same officer, 36:00
"This is just blatant bare naked corruption here." Charlie, 34:45
"I'm really curious to see if this guy even makes any money doing this YouTube stuff." An officer, having watched Ben's first episode, 49:26
On the story changing:
"Brandon showed up to the Salem store in a rental car, not in a U-Haul." Bricks & Minifigs, 1:06:07
"Bring up the brightness of this photo a little bit. And my gosh, there's a U-Haul in the parking lot right outside of the store the night of November 14th, 2024." Coffeezilla, 1:09:30
"What a story, Mark." Charlie, on the camper trailer explanation, 1:13:40
"He's writing fanfiction live. I'm taking a peek inside the writer room here." Charlie, 1:13:45
On the money:
"It's about $107,000." Coffeezilla, 1:19:11
"There's still a huge gap of about $61,000 here that I just couldn't find." Coffeezilla, 1:21:45
"The math ain't math in here." Charlie on $51,000 sold against $17,000 paid, 1:26:20
"It was about 98." Chrystal Law-Gorman, on the layaway count Josh Johnson had put at two to three, 1:27:43
"In a way, multiple people are kind of right, kind of wrong." Coffeezilla, 1:33:45
"Well, I had no idea." Ammon McNeff, on a spreadsheet owned by a corporate email address, 1:43:55
On the point of it:
"Bryan Mansell is a Customer who attempted to use the Bricks and Minifigs service because he believed it was the gold standard and his best bet to sell his father's lifelong Star Wars collection for life changing money. And through this ended up getting completely shafted." Charlie, 1:36:58
"The best path to making things right, in my view, is by just making Bryan whole and moving on." Coffeezilla, 1:39:04
"They can say that they're sorry by doing the chicken dance." Ben Schneider, 1:03:31
Where it stands
A few things are worth separating out, now that the whole thing has been rebuilt.
What is documented on camera or on paper. The body cam recordings are real and were obtained through discovery and public records. The court audio in Part 3 is real recorded proceedings. The email chain between Bryan Mansell's attorney and the company is on screen. The inventory spreadsheet's file properties, including the corporate owner address and the September 2024 creation date, were read out live while McNeff watched. Coffeezilla's point of sale records came from corporate and his inventory list came from the former franchisee. The U-Haul photograph exists. These are the load bearing items, and they are the ones the comparison table above is restricted to.
What is assertion. Ammon McNeff's claims that Ben Schneider had prior arrests, that threats to kill staff were made, and that a sniper shot out a window are, on the record shown here, unsupported by any exhibit produced. The last of the three was actively contradicted by responding officers. Charlie says this plainly rather than implying it, and he is right to: an allegation repeated to police many times without an exhibit is still an allegation.
What Charlie gets wrong or leaves loose, by his own admission. He says three separate times that he is not a lawyer and does not know whether the discovery argument or the protective order are standard procedure. He says he is speculating about McNeff's motives around the shotgun question. He explicitly refuses to say whether the Gormans' bookkeeping failures were malicious or merely incompetent. He researched the federal ruling himself off camera rather than getting it from the source video. Those hedges are all in the tape and they are all appropriate.
Where Charlie is arguing rather than reporting. The characterisation of Ammon McNeff, which runs continuously for one hour and forty six minutes, is commentary. So is the corruption claim about the police departments, which rests on a pattern he finds damning (an officer volunteering to "stack" charges, an officer proposing a replacement statute after the first one failed, an audible giggle, a case with video that went unanswered against a case without video that became a felony) rather than on any direct evidence of a corrupt arrangement. That pattern is genuinely striking. It is also, so far, a pattern rather than a finding.
Where Reckless Ben's own conduct sits. Charlie concedes the criticism twice, unprompted: some of the stunts pushed it too far and were counterproductive, and representing himself instead of retaining counsel probably cost him the protective order, the ignored case file, and the ability to push back on the prosecutor. His defence is not that Ben behaved perfectly. It is that a Customer with no realistic legal path went to the only person who would take up the fight, and that the evidence Ben produced deserved to be looked at regardless of how it was gathered.
And the finding that cuts against the whole framing. The most useful thing in the compilation is Coffeezilla's conclusion that far less is missing than anyone believed, that the $200,000 headline was a press release estimate, that corporate's claim about part of the collection being offsite turned out to be partly true, and that the real mechanism looks like catastrophic bookkeeping rather than a heist. Charlie relays all of that intact and endorses it, including the parts that undercut the story he had been telling for weeks. That is the single most creditable thing he does in the hour and forty six minutes.
What has not changed as of these uploads: Bryan Mansell has not been made whole, the lawsuit naming him has not been dropped, and the ledger between what was sold and what was paid still comes out somewhere between fifty and eighty three thousand dollars short.
I got to tell you, season 31 of My Life
has been a pretty fun journey, but I
didn't expect the writers to go in such
a different direction with some of my
interests. When they introduced the Lego
Scandal plotline this year, I would have
thought that that'd be something that
would have never clicked with me in any
way. Like, maybe I'd read about it and
be like, "Oh, weird." And then just
completely forget about it. But man,
this plotline for this season has been
unbelievable. just I have been
captivated by every upload in this
Reckless bin verse bricks and mini figs
saga and I think I really have to credit
the super strong villains here. They are
just so unbelievably unlikable. Just the
biggest [ __ ] filthy greasy dweebs you
could possibly envision here for the
Lego cartel at Bricks and Minifigs. It's
like the Akotssky from Naruto, but if
they were not cool and just
extraordinarily pathetic. But honestly,
you've got to give the most credit. You
got to give the trophy to the main
antagonist himself, the boy wonder,
Ammon McNe aka Ammon McNuts. God gave
special care to the creation of Ammon.
He said, "I'm going to make the perfect
twerp." And so he did. And he blessed us
all with his presence. Amic McNeff is
like the perfect amalgamation of equal
parts delusion and dork. Like you
couldn't f It's the perfect fusion dance
of these two qualities rolled up into
one guy who loves to twirl his mustache.
He takes every opportunity imaginable to
publicly be clown himself because he has
this hum humiliation ritual fetish that
he's addicted to. And it is just such a
treat watching him go to work, man. Like
when he goes out there and flexes his
non-existent muscles and just makes a
fool of himself for the millionth time.
It's just cinema. So, Reckless Ben
uploaded a new video which has new body
cam footage of, you guessed it, Amit McN
looking like an absolute [ __ ]
imbecile, per usual. And it just
showcases how far they wanted to go to
keep Reckless Ben in jail and like do
everything they can to find every trick
in the book to silence them and get them
thrown in the slammer all over the
bricks and mini figs videos they were
making. And we're going to watch it
right now.
>> He came to harass us at our place. He's
out of state. So, this is filmed right
after I get released from jail the first
time uh because I got arrested because I
was trying to serve them court papers to
take him to court. They're just making
up reasons for me to be arrested. But
then I get out of jail because I paid
for bonds. I get out of jail and now
Ammon's just calling the police because
he's like, "You guys let Ben out of
jail? Like, what the heck? Like, how
could you guys do that? Ben needs to be
in jail right now."
>> I can already just picture the scene in
my head in Ammon's office. He's
lotioning his [ __ ] up, celebrating that
Bin's in jail, only to find out a little
bit later that he uh paid for bond. And
he's out, [ __ ] flips his table over.
He's sweating profusely, SQUEALING,
AND so he instantly gets the police on
the horn because I think Aan McNe calls
the police more than he calls his own
family. Like, he is more acclimated to
their department than he is his own
household, most likely. So, he instantly
gets them on the on the horn, starts
bitching and moaning, whining. How could
you release Ben? Are you out of your
minds? This is a terrorist. He is a
global threat. You've doomed us all. He
walks the streets again. Well, he can't
sleep soundly anymore. What have you
done?
>> So, he was arrested and it's I think he
was booked into the Utah jail and he he
must have been released even though he's
an out ofstate, you know, like flight
risk. He was released and so he he's
he's a YouTuber that does this stuff for
for videos and clicks.
>> Okay. He was arrested in California for
doing this kind of trespassing and kind
of stuff. Um you know like before um
just I think in 2024,
>> right?
>> Um
>> my first time getting arrested ever was
for serving my court papers.
>> My first time ever being arrested.
>> This is my first time ever getting
arrested, but I think Ammon's thinking,
"Oh well, if I lie to the police and
make it seem like he's a criminal, maybe
they'll just keep him in jail this
time." let me know.
>> An excellent strategy from Ammon, a
classic in his playbook here, lying. He
does love that technique. It's something
that he employs often. It's his
signature anime finishing move. And it
has worked to great success for the most
part, unfortunately, even though it is
just blatantly provably false. The vast
majority of the things that he tries to
vomit out of his out of his gullet
there. So now he's telling this officer,
"Hey, this guy's been arrested before.
What are you doing? He's got to go back.
So, I take him back to this slammer,
please.
And Reckless Ben setting the record
straight. No, he he did not get arrested
prior to serving those court papers.
That was his first time. So, I guess
Ammon McNeff is just wrong about that.
He's just pulling things out of his
filthy, stinky little ass.
>> So, so that's what's happening. And so,
but we we like he's also been been uh
passing fraudulent gift certificates to
uh financially harmed.
>> Fraudulent gift certificates. Does he
mean the the Guinness World Record?
>> Oh, I was so confused. I've watched that
part like five or six times. I was like,
what's he mean certificates? Like I
think he means the world record
certificate.
>> Ammon starts to hallucinate more things
to throw at the officer here. So he's
talking about fraudulent gift gift gift
certificates and Reckless Ben and his
team were confused on what that meant.
So they speculate that it must have been
like the Guinness World Record like gag
that they did which is is not what Ammon
McNe is claiming that it is per usual. I
think Ammon lives in like a separate
dimension like his brain is just lost in
the ether. It doesn't inhabit this
corporeal dimension. But it's not it's
not situated where it should.
>> That's that's what's going on.
But at this point, I I just need some
information so I can tell our staff what
is going on because if I need to go and
get some of my staff armed so that he
can't threaten them.
>> That's what I need to do. Or they're
going to go find him and rearrest him
because he he clearly had to have
violated some kind of rule. There's got
to be something to to stop this guy from
continuing to intimidate our staff.
Bro's out here sniveling and drooling,
freaking out like it's Jason Vorhees
coming for them. What have you done? Oh,
my staff. Their lives hang in the
balance. Their lives are in jeopardy.
Now I'm going to have to go out there
and save them cuz did you know I'm
actually like a full-time superhero? So
yeah, I'm going to scoot in sideways
with my van. I'm going to tell the staff
to hop on into the clown car here and
I'm going to take them back to my my bat
cave here to keep them safe and off the
grid so Ben can't find them and eat
them. Did you know he's a cannibal? He's
going to feast on their flesh and bones
if I left them out there in the wild. I
got to go protect my staff now and take
them into the [ __ ] bomb shelter.
Like, bro, like there wasn't anything
unusual about how Ben got out of jail.
He paid the bond. Like, it's not he like
he went to jail on some pretty low-level
bologn. Like, it's just like some fish
paste type [ __ ] So, he just paid bond
and got out. Like, if you're that upset
about it and writing fanfic at this
point now, take it up with a [ __ ]
judge, dude. Like why are you calling
officer action here just random
policeman about it to whine?
>> I don't know what what has been done
since he was arrested yesterday.
>> Sure.
>> Like we we all sighed a big sigh of
relief this morning knowing that he was
arrested last night
>> and then to to have this happen all over
again. Like everyone's feeling some
pretty pretty significant trauma that
>> he's just not going to stop.
>> Yeah. So it's it's not the police or the
or corrections that let him out. That's
that's going to be a judge, right? And
so that would that would be a complaint
that would have to be directed towards
their office um to find out what like
what what's the deal? Why would you let
this guy out when he's stalking us?
Right. That's that's
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So So yeah, really
quick, sorry. Let let me grab a pen. Who
who do I who do I contact for that?
>> What's a judge to someone like Ammon
McNe? Am McN outranks a judge. The judge
should be answering to him. And make no
mistake, that judge is going to be
getting an earful real soon from the
bricks and mini figs top brass. No doubt
giving them a piece of Ammon's mind. In
fact, a whole slice of Ammon's mind. So
yeah, even the cops like, "Bro, this is
like
complain to a judge, man. Stop
blabbering to me." So Aman's like,
"Okay, I'm going to I'm going to do that
cuz everyone's feeling so much trauma
from Ben
talking about bricks and mini figs and
and doing his gags and and such." He's
like, "Dude, what are you talking to me
about this for? Talk to the judge."
>> Police officer's like, "We tried to keep
him in jail until his court case for a
month, but stupid judge let him out. So
like, don't complain to me. Complain to
the judge."
>> Yeah. What are you What are you doing?
>> I suggest you put all all evidence that
you have against this guy on them. He
acts really like cutesy like he's
clearly got some form of sociopathic
disorder. Um because he he lies through
his teeth. He he says and does whatever
he can to just get get away with
whatever he wants. Again, multiple
arrests I think in the past in different
states.
>> So obviously if you look in the police
records, you can see that I've never
been arrested before. But because Ammon
says so, maybe the police will just his
word every single time. They're taking
his word over your evidence. Doesn't
that doesn't make any sense. That is
peculiar that Ammon Nef's word word is
law for some reason. He is just [ __ ]
out garbage just goblygook saying that
Ben's been arrested multiple times when
Ben is saying you can just check his
criminal history. He's only been
arrested in regards to the bricks and
minifigs case. The first one being when
trying to serve the court papers. So
it's like he's provably unreliable with
his claims. he is lying and then he's
got the gull to start projecting like oh
Ben is a sociopath who lies through his
teeth to get what he wants and get away
with whatever he wants and it's like
damn A him is that so wow interesting
coming from from you the guy who I think
if the truth left his lips it would
[ __ ] it'd be like steam coming out
because it would have lit his whole
mouth on fire be so unusual to your body
it cause some kind of like visceral
reaction internally
It's so odd. And I love that he like
Reddit armchair psychologists for a
moment like laring there. He clearly has
a sociopathic disorder. And this is
something Ammon likes to do a lot, I
guess, cuz he does it twice in this
video. You'll see it in a later body cam
where he starts to speculate about Ben's
childhood and how he most likely or
potentially could have been abused,
which led to him becoming what he is
today. It's so [ __ ] weird. Ammon is
such a weirdo cuz uh cuz I can stack I
I'll try to stack it on this uh stalking
caves.
>> Okay, sir. I'm going to call the jail
and then I will meet you over there.
Okay.
>> Okay, perfect. See you there in a little
bit.
>> Yep. Bye.
>> Hey, it's Abrams with Oram Police
Department. How you doing? Uh, you guys
let a guy go this morning it sounds like
named
was released from the jail today.
>> Officer Y.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> It really does feel highly suspicious
that so many officers are willing to
just bend over for Ammon. Constantly
doing everything they can to just spread
their cheeks and let Ammon have their
way with them. Like they will do
whatever they can to appease him.
Whatever Ammon wants, the officers are
always more than willing to oblige.
Going above and beyond to make sure
Ammon gets his way. So like on body cam,
the officer's like, "Yeah, we we can
start stacking this with the stalking
stuff." Basically saying like, "We're
going to keep reaching for more things
to keep putting on here for you, Ammon
against Reckless Ben." Then they
eventually, you know, meet face to face
here on the Tinder date. Very firm
handshake and we get even more
incredible. Incredible fanfic from
Ammon.
>> He shouldn't be doing this stuff. You
know what I mean? All five of them
should be charged.
>> Basically, what they're saying now is
not only should we put Ben in jail for
like for forever for trying to serve
these court papers, we should put all
five of his team members in jail for
trying to take you guys to court. You
guys don't deserve to go to court. And
anyone that tries to take you to court,
we're going to put them in jail
indefinitely.
>> They started threatening to kill some of
the staff. M.
>> And so they were just like, "Hey, if you
don't, we're going to we're going to
kill you if you don't get this guy his
money back and all this other stuff and
like all these things." And so we're
like, "Dude, like you guys have to go
through the appropriate legal channels.
This guy has nothing to do with it."
>> So the officer seems pretty gung-ho
about this idea that really all of them
need to be charged. The the whole kitten
kaboodleoodle actually, not just the
ring leader, Ben, it's got to be all of
them.
Okay, that's pretty extreme, don't you
think? I don't know why you're so
passionately here on Ammon's side when
he has provided no [ __ ] evidence. By
the way, this officer has nothing from
Ammon other than his fanfic that he
keeps spinning. But I guess that's good
enough. So anyway, now you can hear
Ammon once again making his claim about
how Ben and the crew were threatening to
kill Bricks and Mini Fig's employees or
associates, which again, all of the
evidence points to the contrary that
they never made any threats or anything
like that. There is not a single shred
of video, audio, anything to support
Ammon's claims that there were threats
being made on the lives of Bricks and
Minifigs employees on behalf of Ben and
his team. Like they were in there
threatening to take their lives, slit
their throats, that kind of thing. But
he keeps saying it over and over and
over and over again. He has to have said
that [ __ ] like a hundred times about
how, you know, they're threatening the
lives of Bricks and Mini Figs employees,
even though he's never provided a shred,
not even an iota of evidence to support
that, but he keeps [ __ ] saying it
>> other than he just gets off on making
videos and and like like if you look him
up again, he goes by the name of
YouTube, okay? and he films himself
doing illegal things all the time and
then he gets his videos taken down, do
all sorts of research on him. That's
what we're dealing with is a guy who
like honest to goodness he's a
sociopath. As we've done some additional
like uh searches on him, he has like uh
it appears that a relative of him of his
cuz he's originally from Ohio and then
he moved to LA. uh some relative of his
with the same name
that like based on what we can piece
together was uh like convicted of like
child porn or child you know sexual like
contact some of these other types of
things. So there's a very real chance
that he may have been abused as a child
but that set him through a mental
disorder kind of whatever the case may
be. He's clearly a sociopath and does
not care about like system. My whole
family's like pretty close and I'm like
99.999999999%
sure that's not true. But if it is true,
I would like to know who that is. So cuz
I I would that's probably important
information for me if there is someone
in my family that's like that. But now
Ammon's really getting into the minutia,
psychoanalyzing bin, building the
profile, getting inside the mind of a a
psycho sociopath freak. So Ammon stared
into the abyss and he did some
painstaking research of typing in Ben
Schneider. But even that wasn't enough.
It would be enough to satisfy most super
sleuths, but not Ammon. Ammon goes the
extra mile. He typed in Ben Schneider,
Ohio, and what he found really painted
the whole picture for him. So [ __ ]
Goober typed in Benjamin Schneider,
Ohio, and found that someone was
arrested there on some heinous charges,
child porn, and made the connection that
this guy might be related to Reckless
Ben, might be like uh you know, in some
ways part of the family. And thus, there
was a real chance that Reckless Ben was
abused at this man's hands, which led to
him becoming Reckless Ben.
You're insane. You're an actual lunatic.
You know that, Ammon? Like, what the
[ __ ]
Um, just a really quick update. I think
we found the guy that Ammon's talking
about. Athens man is sentenced after he
was found guilty of 110 felony counts
for recording and distributing child
pornography from his home. Benjamin
Schneider is sentenced to 8 years in
prison.
>> So yeah, I guess this guy also got
charged in Ohio and he has a very
similar name to me. It's actually the
exact same name as me.
>> Ben then speculates like if Ammon got
confused thinking that they're related,
the same person, that kind of thing. I I
imagine they're not related because I
think Reckless Bin probably would have
would have known and would have said
something there after he found this guy
who got arrested. By the way, 8 years
isn't nearly long enough for this kind
of [ __ ] gross degenerate. So, I think
that also needs to be revisited and they
need to up that that time in jail a
little bit, I would say. But anyway, so
Ammon found that most likely found this
guy, this Ben Schneider and just assumed
that they were related because they have
the same name.
That's that's watertight. Amen. Wow.
Very impressive detective work.
>> We know this guy's a sociopath and so
we're we are very afraid for our staff
and these guys coming in, they've
threatened people before. They don't
care about the law, right? Right.
>> And that's that's what what makes us
very scared is because again like do I
and I'm I'm kind of asking a serious
question. In your opinion, would you go
get a shotgun and bring it in the store?
>> He keeps asking like so like you're the
police officers, you think it's a good
idea that we should have guns to defend
ourselves next time Reckless Ben comes
in, right? I think what he's trying to
do is cuz Josh Johnson said he was going
to shoot us just for trying to serve him
papers.
>> He keeps reiterating this is a sociopath
now that he's on the loose again. this
mad dog off the leash. Officer, do you
think in your professional opinion, like
if this was you, would you carry a
shotgun in the store just in case they
come around stirring up trouble again?
So, what he's doing, and it's something
Ben talks about, is he's laying like the
groundwork for like this self-defense
angle, like, oh, he's harassing us.
We're all very fearful. He keeps
threatening our lives. Did you know he
keeps saying he's going to kill us? So,
like, officer, what if we had a shotgun
here? And well, what if he comes back
around and we happen to use it cuz it
gets hairy, we get scared. So, he's
trying to just plant that seed.
>> A little scary, but in a situation like
this where some people we feel like are
in danger,
>> I personally encourage people uh who are
able to carry legally to carry.
>> Okay, so that's basically all the
footage after I got arrested of them
freaking out. And I think that kind of
explains why because a few hours later,
we do the GoFundMe. Sheldon gets
arrested just for promoting this
GoFundMe. And then they sent a whole
SWAT team of police officers to my house
to just arrest everyone.
>> So that's the end of the director's cut
of body cam footage here showcasing
Ammon McNe being a giant [ __ ] and
stupid [ __ ] who loves to just lie
perpetually here to the officers. So I
think this like doesn't change anything
going on with like the overall scandal.
It's just more insight into how Amatef
conducts himself and the way in which he
lies to officers to keep trying to have
Ben and Ben's team by extension
arrested. Like he is trying to utilize
every trick in the book to keep them in
jail to it's just [ __ ] ridiculous.
And it just showcases what a evil gross
man he is honestly. And I also it we get
to see some some some shining uh talent
in his ability to psychoanalyze people.
Did you see the way Amf was able to
really soulreed Ben there? Like he
diagnosed him with a sociopathic
disorder. Even got into his childhood
about how there's a very real chance he
was abused that led to this. Like wow.
Ammon is a very talented guy.
Unbelievable that he's able to do that,
too, on top of torpedoing a
multi-million dollar business like
Bricks and Minigs. So, anyway, uh this
was a just some more additional bricks
and mini figs degeneracy here that
Reckless Ben and his team were able to
showcase through this body cam. And it
is still an ongoing issue. So Ben is
still currently engaged in the latigious
uh fight here with Bricks and Minifig.
So he is still of course putting out new
content and such and also on his Patreon
uploading more content there as well. So
I'm still very glued to this story. It
is impressive just how much of a dweeb
Ammon McNuts is, bro. It's crazy.
Anyway, that's really about it. Yeah.
Well, it looks like the Lego scandal is
finally reaching its conclusion in what
has been an extraordinary case filled to
the brim with corruption, confusion,
more going on than Game of Thrones. Uh,
it looks like it's in the endgame now.
Bricks and Mini Figs is forever going to
be a name that lives in infamy, I
imagine, from this point forward.
Reckless Ben was muzzled and unable to
release part three for a while, but he
recently had the ball gag taken out of
his mouth, so he has been able to drop
part three. Buckle your seat belts. It's
a wild ride.
>> I'm about to go to court and I don't
even know what I did wrong.
>> Right now, I kind of don't even know
what I'm being charged for because all
of the body cam footage has been
redacted and they say it's to protect
the victims. However, he's I think there
are some redactions that maybe don't
make sense and that weren't to protect
the victims and there's some things
being said about me that are redaction I
don't know about. So, Ben requested the
court audio. So, this is real court
audio that he had an animator make
visuals for. Ben is representing himself
here. That is like the biggest blunder
historically. That is usually ill
advised. Not just from like legal
experts, but basically anyone would tell
you that representing yourself is a
death sentence. You get bent over. They
spank your cheeks red. A bold move from
Ben here to uh Phoenix right for
himself. He is now explaining that he
doesn't know what he's being charged
with because a lot of redactions are in
place. I do have some concern um in this
case with the defendant representing
himself. The allegations here um relate
to the fact that the defendant um he's a
person who he's a YouTuber um who
creates videos, publishes them online,
and um has been if this defendant were
to represent himself and we were to
provide body cams and discovery, we
would be now providing additional
um information and fodder for this
defendant to create videos from which he
could profit by placing them on YouTube
at the expense of our victim. I have
serious concerns for that.
>> Yeah. The state of Utah is claiming that
if they tell me what I'm being accused
of, then I'll use it for content on my
YouTube channel, and they can't have
that. They're arguing to the judge that
the best thing to do is to not let me
know what's being said about me, which
is very strange, but that's their
argument.
>> Now, you'll be shocked to hear this. I
hope you're sitting down because if not,
it's going to knock you off your feet.
And I don't know if I've ever actually
said this out loud. So, brace for
impact. I am not a lawyer. I know you
can quit your screaming, creaming,
crying, whining, farting, pooping. It's
true. I am not a lawyer. So, I truly
don't understand this argument that had
they told him or give gave him the
information for what he's being charged
with or what's being said about him, it
would be dangerous because he's
representing himself and as a YouTuber
that would be giving him fodder for
YouTube content.
I that's that feels like a big [ __ ]
stretch. So, because he has a YouTube
channel and he's made content around
this case, they now believe they can
just withhold information related to his
legal matter here because what if he
makes content out of it like it's the
[ __ ] boogeyman or something like, oh,
he's going to gang them style on our
victims and trample all over them with
YouTube videos that are mean. Thus, we
can't give him any information about
what he's being charged with or what's
being said about him. I I don't really
understand it. I don't know if this is
standard procedure because if that's the
case, couldn't you make that argument
for anyone that has like any social
media, which is basically everyone on
the planet at this point? Yeah, we've
decided that it's too dangerous to be
giving information to this individual
here because they have a Tik Tok
account. They might say some nasty
things on there and we just be giving
them fodder. I'm assuming it's because
he's defending himself that they're able
to try and make this argument. Had he
had a lawyer, I imagine this [ __ ]
wouldn't fly. But I'm just spitballing
here. I don't really know. I don't I
don't I don't really get this stance
that they're trying to take about it.
>> Uh the courts inclined to sign this
pre-trial protective order unless you
have an objection to it, Mr. Schneider,
and the objection to such an order.
>> Uh yes. I think there's a bunch of
misunderstandings in this case. And so
this person doesn't want to get exposed.
So he's making up a lot of lies about me
to order to like get me arrested before
he gets exposed. So, that's what this
whole thing's about. However, before I
was allowed to show any of the
overwhelming evidence I have to support
my claims, the judge didn't care about
the evidence and signed the protective
order. Anyways,
>> Mr. Schneider, the court's going to sign
this order and serve it upon you.
>> So, the court has made it clear they do
not want to look at the evidence and
they want to protect Josh and Brandon
for some reason.
>> I think it's more so the consequence of
not having an actual lawyer to represent
Ben here. If I'm being honest, I think
had he had an actual legal
representative instead of trying to
just, you know, [ __ ] white knuckle it
and do it himself, like grit his teeth
and defend himself, this probably would
have gone differently. I think had a
lawyer been there, they probably
wouldn't have been able to make that
argument about like, we have to ensure
he doesn't get more content morsels,
more content crumbs. Like, I think
having a lawyer would have been
extraordinarily helpful here. uh in this
case.
>> So, this whole mess is happening in
American Fork, Utah. But I'm also being
charged with another case in Provo,
Utah. This is where corporate Bricks and
Minigs is, which is why I'm also being
charged here. And this police department
has surprisingly actually followed the
law when it comes to discovery. And they
sent me all the raw body cam footage of
what I'm being charged for.
>> Like $200,000 worth of Legos in your
store.
>> Nope.
>> Never happened.
But the CEO did not want to take the
opportunity to do the right thing and
instead instantly called the cops on us.
>> Hi there. I'm calling to report a crime.
>> They themselves say, "Hey, you guys
stole this product from this person. If
you don't give it back, I'm going to
burn the place down or we're we're going
to burn the place down or I'll kill you.
It's Ben Snyder who's been the one
engaged in this behavior." You can see
in the police report that the crime he
wanted to get us charged for is called
extortion, which basically means we're
threatening him into paying us, which is
very illegal. However, obviously, he's
just making all of this up. The reality
is I just thought it was a nice gesture
to give him the opportunity to do the
right thing first. If you guys do have
our Legos, we just kind of want them
back, you know? And
>> holy Toledo, man. Heavens to Betsy.
Ammon McNeff is such a slimy twerk. just
a [ __ ] sniveling dweeb, bro. He is
the epitome of dork. This guy is a
wedgie magnet. So, this is uh something
else that Ben is now having to contest
with here. And you can hear immediately
after that first interaction where Ben
went to Ammon, the head of all of this,
to try and like say, "Hey, this is
what's going on.
This is what we believe is happening.
will you work with us? Give the Legos
back. That kind of thing. And Ammon, you
know, instantly put up a stink like,
"Nope, not happening. Scram. Take a hike
buster. Get out of here." And then he
goes inside, instantly calls the police
and says that they're threatening to
burn the place down or I'll kill you.
And is trying to charge them with
extortion.
What?
What I mean, that's but that's classic
Ammon McNe fashion at this point. This
guy is like dangerously delusional. He
probably went out there and just heard
like when Ben was talking just heard
like Charlie Brown's parents
and then just made up this whole fanfic
in his head. This guy must have come
here to threaten to kill me. Yep. Time
to report him to the police. What a
maniac. And great news, Bricks and Mini
Figs fans and employees and customers.
This is who's running the business by
the way. This is who is at the top of
the food chain sitting on the throne at
Bricks and Minigs. a guy who if you take
a problem to him might turn around and
call the police and accuse you of
threatening to kill him and try and
charge you with extortion if you have an
issue and are trying to directly
communicate with him to get it solved
amicably.
I mean dropping this sarcasm that should
very clearly send a pretty concerning
message to anyone that does business
with bricks and minifigs, right? Like it
has to. So now Ben talks about how his
plan was to go to the police about Ammon
McNe falsifying this report about him
because he has all of the footage, all
the raw footage to prove he never
threatened to burn the business down or
kill him or anything like that. So he
made a case against Ammon McNe about
this. He submitted all of his footage to
prove his claim. I apparently he even
had access to Ammon's evidence which was
basically
because it was just a bunch of
barnacles. It it was just straight up
horseradish. So his plan was to open a
case against Amic McNeff for this
hogwash.
>> My name is Ben Schneider. A couple
months ago I made a case uh and you were
the officer that was helping me create
it. I submitted a bunch of evidence
through a link you sent me and this was
a couple months ago and I haven't heard
anything back and so I'm just calling to
see if I can get some type of update on
how the case is going.
>> They're sorry your call cannot be
completed.
>> Yeah, literally no matter what I tried,
I could not get a hold of this police
officer. Eventually I did find an
answer. They sent it to me in the mail
and looks like I was right. The police
only had time to take on one of our
cases and it was Ammon's, not mine.
Yes, the case that had an overwhelming
amount of evidence. They thought that
case was garbage and they took on the
case that has zero evidence at all.
>> So Ben was trying every option
imaginable to get in touch with the
officer that helped him set up the case
in the first place and put it into the
system. He even went to the department
in person. there was a another officer
on on the phone that reached Ben telling
him that the officer he's looking for
isn't there and she can't provide any
updates about that case or anything
which meant Ben still had no answers or
communication from the authorities on
what's going on with the case. So he
left with his dick in his hand and
nothing to show for it until the ammon
toilet paper floated in through the mail
there apparently. And again, I think
this is probably due to lack of lawyer.
I imagine had a lawyer set this up, like
went through this case with Ben and put
it into the system with the authorities,
they probably wouldn't be able to just
[ __ ] brush him off like that because
there is very real, very compelling,
very substantial evidence from Ben's
camp proving that he never threatened
Ammon McNe's life or anything like that.
So, had a lawyer been with Ben, I
imagine they would have been able to
actually, you know, get this to where it
needed to go, whereas Ben taking it all
into his palm meant that they could get
away with just I giving him the
runaround here, the [ __ ] reachound.
And I do agree with the sentiment a lot
of people have been expressing that had
been had a lawyer or even just like a
legal uh person to consult with, there
probably would have been a lot more
points throughout this story that there
would have been a big W here, like an
actual like uh ability to stop some
things from spiraling out of control
like what's happened here. And I
recognize that it's not exactly like a
financially viable thing all the time,
but with Bin's like freedom in jeopardy,
it's probably worthwhile to explore the
option. Especially with how big this
story got, I'm sure there were some
lawyers that were willing to actually
fight with Ben here for, you know, not
something super unreasonable if I had to
if I had to guess. And I think it could
have been extremely helpful in actually
like stopping a lot of the bricks and
mini figs hoopla.
>> In the police body cam footage after the
police watched my full conversation,
proving that I didn't threaten to burn
the place down or literally anything.
They even admitted to Aean that there
was no credibility with his entire case
against me.
>> We agreed that there really was
no extortion code that would fit your
situation. However, you know, at the end
of the day, we do want to help you guys
so you're not having to deal with this
fool and
all of his issues. Um, we did find that
there was another code that fit and it's
called aggravated commercial
obstruction.
>> Come on, how is that permissible? This
is just blatant bare naked corruption
here. So, this is an officer here. She's
saying, "Yeah, so couldn't really, you
know, hamfist extortion here. It didn't
really fit the criteria, but we we want
to help you guys cuz this fool, this
[ __ ] clown, right? Like, I know he's
so annoying.
So, with a little bit of mental
gymnastics and a tad bit of elbow grease
here, we do have something that can
maybe fit here called aggravated
commercial obstruction. So they are just
doing everything they can to help Ammon
here, help the corporations instead of
the civilian here who has real evidence
to prove their innocence against these
claims. The authority here, the the
officer on the phone, she even says,
"Yeah, it doesn't it doesn't match your
accusation of extortion. So how about we
change your accusation a bit so that way
we can make it work." That's [ __ ] up.
Why are they doing that? Why are you
going out of your way to try and make a
case for this guy who has already just
showed that he was wrong about an
accusation? So, he has been proven liar,
liar, plants for hire, and now you have
gone out of your way to blatantly state
that you want to help him, help them,
the corporation. Yeah, the good guys, by
the way. So, now you have found
something that can maybe fit here for
them to utilize as a weapon against him
that shouldn't be allowed. That's
[ __ ] crazy.
>> However, the tricky thing is is that we
have to prove that this individual
either entered or remains unlawfully on
the premise. When he came to the
property, did you have to ask him more
than once to leave?
>> Yes.
>> Okay.
>> You know, we're not leaving until we get
it. And he's like, "No." Like,
>> that is the tricky thing, isn't it,
officer? So luckily she was helping
Ammon build the case here on this new
claim that has been pulled out of her
ass in order to fit Amond McN's desires
to have been arrested or uh punished
legally as much as possible. And the
lawyer is more than happy to oblige. I
don't know if this excuse me the officer
it's I mean it's basically Emman McN's
lawyer at this point to be honest the
way she's fighting for him. So now uh
talking about like how when he was asked
to leave, Ben and his team refused to.
So Ben showed evidence that the first
time they came around uh when the
conversation had progressed to the point
where they said that you'll need to take
it up with someone else, they left
without issue. The second time he came
back, you're about to see that Ammon
asked him to leave in the middle of a
conversation while Ben was still
speaking and then uh continued the
conversation with Ben. So, he didn't
leave after that first one because the
conversation continued. But then when
Ammon asked him again at the end to
leave, they did leave without issue. To
Ammon's credit, about halfway through
the conversation, he did say that if we
don't leave, he's going to call the cops
on us.
>> You can leave. If you come back here, we
will call the cops. If you don't leave
right now, I will call the cops.
>> So, you don't want to do the easy way.
>> And this was right after I told him, you
could do it either the easy way and just
give us the Legos back, or we can do it
the hard way, implying that we would
take him to court.
>> So, you're threatening me? I'm not
threatening. It's it's we're we're right
like we have a right to the Lego. So,
we're going to get them the easy way.
>> What do you have? What proof of of
ownership have you provided to me that
you own this Lego?
>> I mean, I can give you proof if you
want.
>> Right. Provide proof.
>> But right after he says this, he's now
asking us to provide him proof that we
actually are entitled to these Legos.
So, we can't leave now because he just
told us to stay and provide proof. And
then at the very end of the
conversation, he says this one more
time.
>> Okay. If you've been asked to leave,
please leave.
>> We have to leave. Yes.
>> Okay. Well, thank you for working with
us and
>> so see you later.
>> But now, let's hear how Ammon describes
it to the police.
>> Guys, at this point, I've asked you to
leave. Please leave. Well, we we like
you have to listen to us. You have to
pay us this money. No, guys, you need to
leave and you're not leaving. Like, but
I asked multiple times. They did not
leave. I thought that might be a
secondderee felony. He's facing felony
charges. It is a felony. The officer
can't even hide her giggle. You can
literally hear her smile through the
phone here because she gets to do
something good for Ham and McN. Let's
go.
I don't I don't get it. Why is she kind
of giddy about it? That's [ __ ] wild
to me. So yeah, the first time he was
asked to leave, he as he was talking
talked about the easy way, hardway
thing, which we saw in the initial
video, the first part, and then he
talked about all right, we'll provide
proof. So like he continued the
conversation.
So, I understand like yeah, he was asked
to leave and didn't instantly leave, but
also Ammon continued the conversation
and then when he did ask the second
time, they left. Like they they didn't
put up a snake about it. They left. And
from all of the available evidence here,
it doesn't seem like they made some kind
of crazy stance like, "No, we're not
leaving or anything like the way Ammon
is describing it." But now the officer
is going to be working off that claim
from someone who has already been proven
incorrect with their extortion claim.
It's a little weird, right? I mean,
that's a little fishy. This is what this
is what everyone has been saying. The
way that the police department here in
the area is handling this case is very
[ __ ] peculiar. From all the body cam
that we've seen, the way they interact
with the bricks and minifigs top brass,
it's very chummy and it's very [ __ ]
odd. Like it does feel extremely
corrupt. Now the next section, it's
focusing a little bit on how Amn McNeff
always falls back onto the world's
smallest violin. Oh, I don't understand.
Oh goodness. We're doing everything we
can to work with you guys. Come on.
We're just asking for some proof. Then
every time proof is trying to be
provided, they were getting like ghosted
and stuff. Uh then also trying to
communicate via email to get the
inventory from Bricks and Minigs was a
complete [ __ ] disaster across the
board. That was a big old hot potato
that just [ __ ] was too steamy. Hot tub
was too hot. So like just this big mess.
So Aman McNeff always says things about
like we're trying to get this fixed.
We're doing everything. We're the good
guys. Why don't you understand that? But
oh my goodness. Oh. Oh. Even trying to
sound like Amnant McNeff just hurt my
throat. But it just the point is he says
these things, but the actions throughout
this entire thing don't corroborate
that. It seems like he has put up a big
old fuss every step of the way and has
not been overly communicative nor overly
uh amidable to trying to get this whole
situation fixed or solved or even like
really look into it at all.
>> Store figured out what uh was part of
his collection, taken inventory and
shown him that inventory to offer that.
>> We've we've tried to share those with
Mr. man cell in hopes that he can see,
you know, like that that we were not
attempting in any way, shape or form to
withhold anything. Those then were
offered to him and and the the initial
offer was rejected. One priority right
now is to ensure that he gets made
whole. We know that that we have a
responsibility to work with him to make
sure he does get made whole.
>> So, you've offered Brian uh the
inventory of sets that was in the store.
>> Yeah. What whatever was left over uh
we've offered that on on multiple
occasions. So, so we've we've tried to
make multiple offers and uh hopefully
we'll be able to to get them to the
table so we can discuss it.
>> I still can't get over Ammon McNe's
humiliation ritual that he is still in
the midst of. So, like he always tries
to say like how hard he's tried to work
with Brian and doing everything he can
for Brian. I mean, he's he's the bell of
the ball. We we have to do everything.
And we know that at Bricks and Miniigs,
we value our customers so much that we
want to do everything we can to [ __ ]
them in the face when things go wrong.
Like he's publicly trying to say this is
what we're doing to try and make them
whole. It's, you know, of the utmost
importance. But all of the actions that
they actually take outside of his lip
service indicate the opposite. Like it's
important we remember they are actively
in a lawsuit that names Brian Mancel in
a $1.3 million lawsuit, by the way. So,
you care so much about making him whole
that you'll go through an aggressive
legal strategy in order to [ __ ] smite
him. Huh, Ammon? Is that right?
>> Unfortunately, Brix and Miniix has
chosen to deflect and dodge
responsibility at most opportunities and
created a really awful customer
experience that has snowballed into this
crazy series of events. But instead of
taking accountability for that, they've
taken an aggressive legal strategy,
which I told them personally was a
horrible idea. As of writing this, Brian
Mancel is being sued for 1.3 million as
part of a legal campaign against him and
Reckless Ben and any of the associates.
Remember, Brian is the same guy who lost
all these Legos at Bricks and Miniix
store. And I told the CEO and COO that's
ridiculous and they should drop this.
But go on, Ammon about how much you care
about Brian and ensuring that he gets
what he's owed so this can all be made
right while also actively suing him. You
dirty rat. You little bastard. You
classic Ammon McN.
>> The entire time we were saying, "Hey, we
want to help. We want to help."
>> The main narrative now seems to be
bricks and mini figs has always been
trying to give Brian his Legos back, but
Brian just never wanted them back.
>> Would you be willing to just take this?
And the answer was no. was attempted to
be given to the family and it was
refused. They made the offer and said,
"Hey, you you can have all this and and
that offer was was not accepted at the
time."
>> Well, that's Ammon's side of the story,
but I say let's take a look at what
actually happened
>> from the bottom up. That is our
correspondence with Bricks and Minigs
trying to work with them and getting the
sets back.
>> So, right when this happened, Brian
hired an attorney to reach out to Bricks
and Minigs. They sent an email saying,
"How should we proceed to retake the
possession of the set/ minifigures and
they actually emailed back saying they
were willing to help?" And then after
this, they just never respond.
So Brian's attorney sent them another
email. Just following up on this, uh,
when can we pick up the sets? And they
still didn't respond.
So the attorneys emailed back saying,
"It's now been 16 days. How can we get
these Legos back?"
And finally, they received a response.
It says Brandon Best and Joshua Johnson
have no legal obligation to return any
of the Lego product that exists in their
store to you. What? Surprise! Wow! My
jaw was on the floor? You mean that they
were not actually willing to work with
Brian despite what Amond McNe said, but
he said so? What do you mean that the
proof contradicts that statement? That's
so weird, man. You calling Aman McNe a
liar? Oh, I don't know about that.
What's next? You going to tell me dog
[ __ ] smells like poop or something?
Uh-uh. So, yeah. Anyway, they Evan can
say all he wants, keep flapping his gums
about how hard they've tried to work
with him, but all the evidence seems to
point to that just not being true at
all. So like Brian is now showing the
correspondence where they were actively
trying to get these Lego sets back and
in classic Bricks and Minifigs fashion
just getting ghosted just met with
crickets and then eventually when they
did get communication they put up this
strong stance about like there's no
legal obligation by the way. So uh go
kick dirt [ __ ]
>> Exactly.
>> They finish this email saying we
consider this matter closed and will not
be returning any Lego products to you.
So as you can see that's the reality of
what actually happened. But then Ammon
goes on Fox News and says this.
>> So they actually did have an attorney
send information to us. We said, "Great.
Appreciate this. Let's see what we can
do to work this out."
>> Yeah.
>> And then we never heard back.
>> Telling lies, Ammon.
>> Yes, Papa.
Yikes, dude.
Again, I don't know why Ammon keeps
doing all these interviews when there is
plenty of information to instantly
contradict his statements. He himself
contradicts him statements. His
statements. He is always flip-flopping
and just looking like a damn fool, but
he keeps doing it like this. And this is
what Coffeezilla was saying in his
video. There have been mistakes on all
sides for how this case has been
handled. But it is a masterclass in
deflection and bad decisions from Bricks
and Minifigs that is just completely
torched their entire brand and
reputation because of this unwillingness
to actually try and get things solved.
Instead, they go for these aggressive
legal routes that are just overly strong
heavy-handed that instill just not
actually working to try and get the core
problem solved, which is a customer took
a massive Lego collection to a bricks
and minifigs because they trusted them
to do it correctly. Things went tits up
and then when they tried to get things
solved, get it fixed, Bricks and Minigs
wasn't open to it. and wasn't actually
able to work with them in any meaningful
capacity and became combative,
aggressive. There was also right away
that uh what was his name? Kai Key,
whatever the [ __ ] his name was, making
like threats about how they'll like draw
this out in court and you'll lose more
than you would have ever gained. That
kind of thing. So, like again, there
were mistakes handled across the board.
But Bricks and Minigs, I believe, bears
most of the blame because this could
have been solved so long ago if they
were just open to at least reading the
[ __ ] inventory that they had access
to for the longest time and trying to
figure out, okay, what's where uh the
previous franchisee Crystal what what
did she sell and forget to mark down and
that kind of thing. like what actually
dive into it and solve it. But they just
refused and instead they went this
nuclear option and in doing so they've
been caught in so so so many lies
themselves that make the entire company
look bad. So it's just it was so easily
avoidable. I feel given the scale of
this company of mega corporation here.
They make multi-millions raking in tons
of clams. This was something they could
have probably handled promptly.
but instead
they chose this. It's so weird.
>> I'm now starting to think that the only
reason Ammon wanted us to email him
about the inventory list wasn't actually
gave us the inventory list, but actually
it was a trap. Yeah, Ammon only wanted
me to email him so he can find out my
email and subpoena Google and find out
all of my private information.
And you think I'm lying, but they
actually did this. They subpoenaed
Google asking for all private
information tied to this email address.
And Google sent them like hundreds of
hours of all the raw footage from
everything I've filmed the Lego video so
far. All my emails, all my search
history, all the metadata that shows
everywhere I've been. But anyways, this
was the reaction of the police officer
after she watched my entire first
episode.
>> I'm really curious to see like if this
school even makes any money doing this
YouTube stuff. I'm like if it's enough
for him to travel. I didn't even know
you could do that. So, the Provo Police
Department here uh subpoenaed Google to
get all of the information from that
email address, like everything that had
ever filtered through it through
Google's systems.
And now one of the officers has like
watched some of the footage and is
talking [ __ ] like it's a League of Legal
Legends lobby here. Like, does this fool
even make any money, you think? like
he's able to travel. So now she's just
like gossiping here
>> to another state just to go get some
footage.
>> I I it doesn't even sound like his his
like secret information doesn't even
seem credible from my understanding.
>> No. So So it sounds like you were able
to watch the video.
>> I think by secret information, the
police officer is referring to the
security camera footage that proves that
everything Bricks and Miniigs is saying
is a lie.
>> It really does seem like they're best
buddies here. It smells kind of reeks of
something fishy a foot. It's very
peculiar.
>> Get out of your thief.
>> Dang.
>> Okay,
>> you can shut the [ __ ] up. That's your
[ __ ] choice.
>> Freaking mini figs is also getting me
for RICO charges.
>> They're charging reckless Ben for Rico.
I think it is uh more likely that the
police are guilty of Rico, right?
>> And if you look at the CEO's previous
businesses, he actually got sued for
Rico. He's the one guilty of Rico, not
me. They're also accusing me of sending
a sniper to shoot out the windows of the
McNe house.
>> You guys want to come too? You can see
the window and see where they were
shooting from. It could be a sniper
blade on the hill.
>> When the police got there, they realized
it was actually a construction worker
who accidentally shattered the window.
>> Seems more likely that it happened from
construction work than it happened from
some random people
>> across the way.
>> Holy [ __ ] Ben recruited a sniper to
blast them. Oh no. Hit the deck. Like
this is craziness, right? Like this is
actual craziness. And yes, McNeff does
have a very shady history. It's
something that I haven't even really
touched on all that much. But yeah, the
his history is quite unsavory.
And the [ __ ] sniper thing is wild.
Like they just throw the kitchen sink at
him. Like these outrageous accusations
here. Oh yeah, it might have been a
sniper up on the hill that blew out this
[ __ ] window, by the way. And then
they go and it's like, "No, no, I don't
think it was actually."
>> But even after all this, they still go
online and say it was me.
>> I want us to take a deeper look at this
post here from Dan McNe to really let
this marinate for a second cuz it's it's
quite a quite a wild one. Today's
version of a lynch mob could very well
be YouTube investigators. At one point 6
years ago, I was the CEO of Bricks and
Minifigs. My sons illegally removed me
from that position and sued me for
control of another company I founded.
This is what I'm talking about, man.
Ammon like they are shady people. Like
they are real like they Ammon is a
[ __ ] worm, dude. So like even his dad
has been on the receiving end of his his
diabolical rampage of filth. He then
goes on to say, "I have had nothing to
do with Bricks and Minifigs since then.
Regardless of this, in the last 10 days,
I've been given multiple death threats.
And two days ago, we saw people viewing
our home from a hill behind our home
with binoculars. And they shot out a big
picture window that will cost thousands
to replace, which as we've seen on body
cam, the authorities did go out there
and investigate, and they said, "No, it
it was probably a construction worker
that blew this [ __ ] out here. I don't
think it was [ __ ] simple with an op
over there sniping you from across the
way." And yet he's still going out here
and saying like, "Ah, they [ __ ]
blasted out our window. Those
scoundrels." And then goes on to say
like how these locations are
independently owned and operated and
don't deserve to be hurt, which is
something I've talked about. The Bricks
and Minigs locations, these franchises
out there don't have anything to do with
like what's happening in this case in
particular. They are also probably just
as upset as everyone else because that
is really hurting their business because
now no one is trusting Bricks and
Minigs, rightfully so, because the
corporation like the actual uh meat of
it, the headquarters had proven to be
very unsavory and very untrustworthy and
that is hurting the normal people that
operate some of these locations and that
[ __ ] sucks. I feel terrible for them
because it's not like they're doing
anything that is encouraging the bricks
and minifigs corporate behavior. they
just happen to be franchisee owners
across the country that are getting hurt
here. And I don't and I think most
people recognize that those are
unrelated. But there are of course some
people that don't. And I've talked about
that too where some people are going
into random bricks and mini figs and
just [ __ ] fighting everyone like
actually physically throwing hands and
knuckle sandwiches. So yeah, there are
some people that are a little lost in
the sauce there. But on the whole, I
think most people recognize that this is
a corporate like bricks and mini figs
thing and specific to those franchises
thing. But anyway, the father going out
there and like saying, you know, all of
this, it is still a wild statement. It
also even shows that Ammon McN like he
is got a very not good past, too. So, I
just let you know, we call the double
blind. The person who committed the
crime may or may not be in the lineup or
depicted. So, I will give this to you.
You'll have as much time as you need to
um choose someone or to not choose
anyone. Whenever you're able to feel
that you have a I need somebody, I just
ask that you circle it in next
and then
like that. Perfect. Okay, there you go.
Okay, cool.
>> This was like the final step that I
needed. This is legit. that we've been
able to verify who he is now.
>> Y
>> um
>> so the police put on this big
performance to make it look like they're
going to all this work to verify the
facts when in reality they already know
who I am. They already subpoenaed
Google. They already watched my entire
first Lego video. They already went
through all my search history. To me,
this just feels like a stage performance
so they can show the world, hey, look,
we verified everything. when if they
would have just put an equal amount of
effort into watching the raw footage I
submitted to them, they would have found
out that Ammon's just completely lying
to them. But for some reason, they
didn't. I think that's a totally fair
and legitimate thing to point out. They
went through the ringer for Ammon McNe.
They did everything they could to
appease him while seemingly giving no
time to Bin's evidence that he
submitted. He got no communication with
them past the initial case and
submitting all of his footage and
everything. They never did anything with
Ben to work with him from all the
available evidence. Yet, they did so so
so much for Ammon, even going as far as
to help him change his claim because his
first one was [ __ ] bogus. It was way
off. So, instead, they gave him a
different thing to to go for instead.
Like, they are doing so much working
directly with Ammon while seemingly
being like best buddies. Smells kind of
corrupt if you ask me. Why did they not
do anything with Ben's evidence or Ben's
case or work with him? And yes, I agree.
Like you can chalk that up to Ben not
having a lawyer, but it also doesn't
seem like Ammon is bringing his lawyer
to these things either. Like they are
talking directly to Ammon himself, not
Ammon's legal representative. So why are
they willing to extend this courtesy of
working directly with Ammon but not
directly with Ben? It it is [ __ ]
weird. That is very odd. A few weeks
later when I ended up going to court,
this was the state's response.
>> My name is Nick Miel. I'm the
prosecutor. Is Benjamin Schneider here?
>> If you want to take care of that today,
we could do what we call a plea in
obeyance.
>> Were you able to see the footage I
submitted to the police of our
interaction?
>> I have not watched it. No.
>> Okay. Because in that footage, you can
clearly see that the second he tells us
to leave where we say, "Okay, we'll
leave." Um, and then he calls the police
and said that we threatened to burn down
the building and shoot everyone inside.
And he was just making up all these
lies, which you can clearly see in the
footage that we submitted. Not we were
being respectful the whole time. We left
the second he told us to.
>> Sorry, let me look.
>> And so it makes sense why the police
would take me to court because I mean,
he's threatening that we're going to
burn down the building and shoot
everyone. But we did nothing. like he's
just saying that because he's he's
trying to I'm a documentary maker so I'm
making a documentary on the thing. So
his logic is if he throws me in jail
then I if he makes up a reason for me to
go to jail then I won't be able to
expose them for their crimes. So that's
the uh what's going and it's it's it's
clear as day in the footage uh if you
watch it. It seems like they're just
making up a bunch of false information
in order to silence criticism. But did
you submit that to the uh police
officer?
>> Does is the footage going such that it's
still going like when you step out the
door?
>> Uh it starts from when we're in the
elevator before we talked to him to when
we were back in the elevator going back
down.
>> Obviously a video doesn't necessarily
show everything that possibly happened.
So according to again this is where a
lawyer would be so beneficial here
because Ben does have evidence to prove
his side of this story. Ammon has
nothing besides his word which is
worthless. That is that is actually just
a little [ __ ] hemorrhoid. His word
means nothing. Ben has video evidence.
But since Ben is representing himself,
it's a little harder for him to make
these statements and get this where it
needs to go in this system so that it
actually leads to what it should, which
is justice and and proving his his side
here. And that statement there from the
opposing side about, well, a video
doesn't necessarily show everything that
happened is [ __ ] crazy considering he
hasn't even watched the footage yet.
Like they they haven't even looked at
the footage yet. So, why are you already
coping? Why are you already making up
like this out? It sounds like they
probably know that it does show the kind
of whole scope of the situation, at
least more so than what Ammon is saying.
Like, it's [ __ ] ridiculous. And and
this is where a lawyer would be able to,
I imagine, dunk on that. The state of
Utah, the raw video that shows
everything that possibly could have
happened is not credible and could not
have shown everything that possibly
could have happened. And they didn't
even watch it. They're literally just
taking Ammon's word for everything and
completely ignoring all the evidence.
So, where does this leave me now? Not
only am I being charged with a bunch of
mystery crimes in American Fork, Utah,
but I'm also being charged with a
secondderee felony up to 15 years in
jail in Provo, Utah. And now that they
have written proof that I'm committing
all of these insane crimes against them,
I mean, obviously Bricks and Minigakes
just made up everything, but that's not
how the court sees it. The court thinks
that these are real. And for whatever
reason, the court wouldn't let me share
my side. They only heard Bricks and
Minig's side.
>> Ben's side was not in the room. Was not
heard. The court signed an order erasing
his published work on the strength of
the company's verified complaint and the
company's motion with no one there to
say a word against it.
>> That is how it seems. Again, I'm no
legal expert, but some legal experts
have weighed in and expressed similar
sentiment. There it it is looking like
it is only hearing one side and refusing
to engage in even the slightest capacity
with Bin's side and look at his
evidence. And that's not right. They are
only willing to see and hear from one
side no matter how flimsy the evidence
provided from that side is. And using
the word evidence to describe Ammon
McNe's word about what was said is just
gross because it's not really evidence.
He is just lying. provably lying. It's
It's just It is not fair. It does not
feel fair. Now, again, I do think a
lawyer would be able to probably do more
here, but even still, in what world is
that okay that this guy doesn't have a
lawyer, so we're just not going to even
look at anything that he has. We'll just
go with this corporation, this mega
corporation that seems to be real
friendly with the police department.
They must be the ones that are right no
matter what. And we'll do everything we
can. bend over backwards to ensure that
we're fighting for them instead of the
little guy. It's it's it's just wrong.
Now, of course, you can point to some of
the stunts that Ben did in some of the
videos and say like, you know, maybe
this was pushing it too far or maybe
this was counterproductive to getting
things solved. And I think that's a fine
critique to have. I think that's very
valid. But you should also be able to
recognize that he does have very real
evidence for his innocence in the face
of some of the claims made against him
from bricks and minifigs that are just
outrageous. And those things should be
seen, viewed, and actually analyzed by
the system here instead of just rejected
based on the merit of his accuser. This
corporation, we love those guys. Look at
how much money they make and how cool
they are. So what they say is right. You
don't even have a lawyer. We're not even
going to look at your [ __ ] You Yeah,
you may have made a case with the police
officer here, but we don't even want to
look at that. I'm sure he was It's
stupid. You're dumb. Get out of here.
They're right. You're wrong. It's just
that's not how it should be.
>> Because I have my freedom speech back,
baby. I can say whatever I want. I can
say bricks and mini figs sucks. I can
say bricks sold people. And look, I just
said it. I'm not in jail, which is sick.
We got our First Amendment rights back.
Yeah.
>> And now that I have my freedom of speech
back, everyone is wondering how bricks
and mini figs can make up for the fact
that they made up all these lies about
me to take away my freedom of speech.
They can say that they're sorry by doing
the chicken dance. And I will take that
as a sincere form of apology. And uh
once they do the chicken dance, then I
will know that Bricks and Mini Figs is
sorry and we can finally uh move on to
the next video series. It'll be awesome.
So Ben has been able to release this
video. He is able to talk about Bricks
and Minifigs again despite earlier being
silenced uh you know, gagged. And now
he's saying the way they can make it up
to him for taking away his freedom of
speech is to do the chicken dance to
show sincere apology. His reasoning is
that they always like say these nice
things, the the right things they'll
say, but they never actually do the
right thing. So he wants to see their
actions reflect it, which is why he
wants them to like actually do the
chicken dance. That's the reason behind
it. Now, he didn't really dive into how
he got to this point, like being able to
speak about it now. So, I looked into it
a little bit. So, from what I've read,
this case moved up from state to federal
court. And in federal court, it's very
different. So, a federal judge came in
and ruled that he is allowed to talk
about these things because it is a part
of, you know, commentary and
investigative journalism. It is
explicitly commentary and investigative
journalism. Thus, he is allowed to say
these things and post this video within
reason. He can't just say anything at
all willy-nilly. It does need to come
from a standpoint of being a [ __ ]
investigative journalist. He can't just
be doing, you know, the most outrageous
over-the-top things and claims about
bricks and minifigs now or anything like
that. But he is able to talk about them
again now. It has been amended, which is
great. And it does seem like we're
reaching the endgame here of the Lego
scandal.
And it is just [ __ ] wild how all of
this has been unfolding. F is trying to
like minimize the amount of Legos with
this discrepancy. Like okay, even if
there was some unaccounted for and some
uh wackiness
documentation got cattywampus. It's not
a hundred thousand. It's not 10 times.
Yeah, you might have a couple hundred
photos, but it's not like that much.
It's just it's very uh fishy behavior.
And speaking of fishy, it's about to get
real weird with the U-Haul story.
>> So, when Brandon came to the store that
night, uh he was driving a U-Haul truck.
>> Now, in typical fashion, this was
immediately disputed.
>> Brandon showed up to to the Salem store
in a rental car. uh when when he came to
to get the keys from Crystal, he was
there in a rental car, not in a U-Haul.
>> But the big reason it mattered to me was
because I was actually called by an ex
employee of the Bricks and Miniix store
in Eugene, Oregon. Remember, that's the
one that Brandon and Josh owned. And he
told me something very interesting.
>> I'm a former employee started in 2024.
And I was working under the old um
manager Brian. He sold the store to
Brandon best and Josh. Josh like, "Oh,
Crystal um stole Lego sets and bolted
out of the country."
>> Who says that?
>> Brandon. Brandon Best told us
when he was uh jumping off all the Lego
sets to us that night. They used like it
was a bunch of used Lego sets that were
like Saranograph. They had Star Wars
City. They just a lot of stuff. It was
like a mediumsiz U-Haul truck.
>> Wait, wait, wait. They brought a U-Haul
truck.
>> Yeah. From Salem to Eugene
>> and to Eugene and it had a bunch of Star
Wars sets on it.
>> Yes, Star Wars sets and everything. You
have a bunch of new stuff, too.
>> So, Coffeezilla was contacted by a
former employee at the Eugene location,
which was owned by Brandon and Josh. And
he talks about how he watched the
Reckless bin YouTube video and a lot of
like what they were experiencing with on
their own started to make sense. And
then even talks about how that U-Haul
that has been brought up by the Gormans
actually arrived at the Eugene store
full of Lego sets. Saran wrap Lego sets.
Star Wars Lego sets. This is a huge big
claim here. And this is a real former
employee. Coffeezilla did his due
diligence, from everything I can tell,
to confirm this really is an employee
who worked where he said he worked,
which was at that Eugene location with
Brandon and Josh as the owners. And he
is talking about how they had a U-Haul
that brought these Lego sets and uh they
were saying like that facility was
closed down, you know, [ __ ] was like
haunted. Crystal, big thumbs down. Boo,
Crystal, we don't like Crystal. Boo. She
was like stealing Legos and stuff. And
then he arrives on his chariot here, his
U-Haul with these [ __ ] Star Wars
sets.
That's that's big. That is colossal. And
Bricks and Minigs McN there. You can
hear him still denying the existence of
that U-Haul in the first place. It is
heavily disputed, saying he showed up in
a rental vehicle, not a U-Haul.
Explicitly saying not a U-Haul, but the
Gormans are saying it's a U-Haul. A
former employee at the Eugene location
is saying it was a U-Haul.
I mean, it sounded like it was a [ __ ]
U-Haul to me. If it walks like a duck,
talks like a duck, probably a [ __ ]
U-Haul.
>> Like, if you were to look at the the
footage, uh the ring cameras, all that
stuff, you you won't see a U-Haul
sitting anywhere in the the parking lot.
>> So, after in hearing all of this, I
realize, look, I just got to find the
evidence. So, I start sifting through
these photos I have, right? I realize I
have a parking lot photo. I check it. No
U-Haul, just a red truck out there. I
check another photo where you can see
the window, but the problem is it's
night outside, so you can't see. And so
I'm looking at everything I can and
there's just nothing. You know, I have
this alternate angle. I'm looking at
that and then wait a minute, zoom in on
that photo. Bring up the brightness of
this photo a little bit. And
my gosh, there's a U-Haul in the parking
lot right outside of the store the night
of November 14th, 2024. I mean, is this
not Coffeezilla just reaching over to
deliver the scholars mate here on that
claim of no U-Haul? They now have
irrefutable evidence of that U-Haul's
presence there on that night, which
confirms the Gorman's account of things
and disproves the bricks and mini figs
side of things. Now, there was that
truck that was there in like the the
footage that Coffeezilla had access to,
but there is also a U-Haul there. So,
does Bricks and Minifigs just deny the
U-Haul in light of irrefutable proof and
try and stick to the story that we now
know is inaccurate about no U-Hauls
being there, only a truck, or do they
try and feain ignorance like, "Oh, we
were only made aware of that like rental
truck. We had no clue about this U-Haul
scheme here." This is something that
Matt said he had seen footage of and it
couldn't be true. And again, I I believe
I have seen footage from that night that
shows clearly out into the parking lot
and there's no U-Haul.
>> After seeing this, I said, "I really
have to make a call." And that's when
the story changed. So, last night, I
talked with Matt McNeff. I brought up
this question of the U-Haul. He told me
emphatically there was no U-Haul. Y'all
came to me this morning. You said, "Hey,
we looked into it. There actually was a
U-Haul there that night. Can you clear
up what that's about?" So, so, so
there's there's actually two different
things that are going on here just to
help you understand.
>> Bro, I hate the way Ammon talks. I hate
the way he conducts himself. His clothes
whack. His mustache whack. This guy
sucks, man. Like, let me just help you
understand, actually. So, yeah, there's
a U-Haul there. We know you. We know you
found it. We We know you found the the
evidence of the U-Haul. We're going to
have to change our story a little bit.
We're going to have to tighten the
screws a little bit here and try and get
something cohesive here cuz yeah, that
doesn't look good cuz we really were
strongly saying that there's no U-Haul.
So, here's the spin. Here's the scoop.
And I don't want to torture you with
more than necessary ammon words that he
drils out. He's basically now spinning
this this web here that actually this is
a big misunderstanding. Uh there's
there's a odd conflation that's going on
here about like the U-Haul. Like it's
not actually there for like this store's
inventory. There was a disgruntled
former employee. Uh and there was a a
bit of uh mishandling of inventory. So
now the U-Haul is there for that
something totally separate and and you
know now things are wires getting
crossed. Everyone's all over the place.
But yeah, does that cleared up? Does
that make sense? It really just doesn't
make any sense. He's saying that that
collection that he had brought to the
Eugene store was from that other problem
that they had and the employees just
misremembering the timeline like those
Star Wars sets that he had in that
U-Haul didn't come from, you know, this
one. It was from something totally
separate that he was also just doing it
like the same time as him investigating
the Salem store. He was doing them both.
He wears many hats. Jack of all trades.
He's very talented. So yeah, he was
doing that and then when he came back on
the 14th, uh he then starts talking
about like oh he had like a rental truck
and he tried to attach a camper to it
but it just wasn't rated for that. So he
thought a crap like this is this is the
story that McNeff is telling. Like it is
it is quite a tale. Well, it is it is
like a, you know, an epic up there with
the Iliad, I'd say, but like it's not
really making a ton of sense to me.
>> In anticipation, like meaning like a
camper trailer in anticipation of the
the potential hostile takeover
previously.
>> Is that why he had a U-Haul? Is that the
reason he had a U-Haul was for this
camper or what's going on with the
>> So, so then what happens is he takes his
his uh rental vehicle truck and he tries
to connect the the trailer uh the
camping trailer to that truck and and
it's not rated for that particular
weight and he realized, a crap. he
called around and found that that U-Haul
uh had a rating for, you know, one of
their box trucks. And so he grabbed
that, went and got it at 10:00 a.m. on
the 14th and at uh and so he then went
and hooked that trailer up um to the
camping trailer to a U-Haul, drove that
trailer down to another location where
he could set up the camping trailer in
Salem. uh dropped off the camper trailer
and then he arrived in a U-Haul to the
Salem store and then um
>> what a story, Mark. [ __ ] me, bro. The
amount of and then it's like he's
writing fanfiction live. I'm taking a
peek inside the writer room here. Like
he's talking about all of this as if he
was like a force ghost on this guy's
shoulders, like watching him do all of
it. Where is this even coming from? like
this. Who who would ever do this? By the
way, the story he is telling, I can't
fathom a human being doing like it's
just so messy and sloppy and convoluted.
Like, I don't I just don't see a world
where this would be a path that someone
actually takes. Now, I'll go ahead and
spoil that the U-Haul plotline doesn't
get us anywhere closer to finding the
Legos, but I do think it is important
because it illustrates their willingness
to change their story or just outright
tell a fib. So, Coffeezilla got
documentation of that U-Haul. He got
photos from Brandon of that night and
there's so much discrepancy there that
it literally would be impossible for the
story to have gone the way that Ammon is
claiming it did. The timing is just not
feasible. It literally cannot happen the
way in which it's described. So, even
though the U-Haul doesn't help us solve
the mystery Lego here, like Coffee
Zilla, get to the bottom of it, it just
shows to me the willingness for Bricks
and Minifigs to just start spinning
their [ __ ] wheels about basically
anything and just a complete refusal to
like even stick to their own story and
their own facts. Like, it's constantly
changing with them and there's always
like contradictions that seem to pop up.
It is just very uh shady. I would say in
particular with Ammon's behavior. This
guy has a humiliation fetish
potentially. He loves to put his face on
claims that have contradictory evidence
publicly available. So like in this one
he tells this whole story this this
novel that he writes here about like the
U-Haul to explain it even after the
other McNF firmly sternly with no
riddles no guesswork no wiggle room
saying there is no U-Haul that's wrong
now proven that that wasn't true there
is a U-Haul there and now Ammon's got
this massive story cooked up about it
and the story just like there's no way
it can be true based on everything
Coffeezilla was able to rather from
Brandon like the actual documentation.
So like I don't think there's any world
where that's true or reality yet he's
proudly making that claim even when it's
like evidence contradicts it like
provably contradicts it. I that's why
it's just so peculiar to me like they
keep saying these things and can't even
stick to their own story.
>> First from corporate I got the point of
sale records from the Salem store from
2023 to 2024. And secondly, from Crystal
Gorman, I got her internal records of
Brian's inventory of what was sold or
not in order to pay him and keep track
of prices. Now, Coffeezilla gets access
to some of the bookkeeping here. And he
talks about how the original claim of
this being a $200,000 LEGO collection is
just not true. It's highly inaccurate.
It was used as marketing buzz online.
Yes. like from Bricks and Minigs
themselves as their marketing material,
like the $200,000 collection, that kind
of thing. And that became, you know, the
most eye-catching part of this whole
story is how much the Legos are worth.
But according to all of what is
available here, the actual estimated
value is calculated to be around
$107,000 according to what Coffeezilla
has access to. still an extremely
valuable Lego collection, but that claim
is just not accurate about it being
200k. It is still extremely valuable and
that is still an extreme amount of
money, but it is important to get things
correct and the correct amount is around
100,000 $107,000
which as Coffeezilla mentions is
somewhat nebulous because they're not
all sold. So, you can't really say
exactly what the value is because they
haven't been paid for. So maybe it could
be a little more, maybe a little less,
but it is not fair to say it's $200,000.
He then talks to Ben about it, about how
surprised Ben is, cuz he'd been led to
believe it's 200k this whole time. He
then talks to the Gormans about it and
Crystal talks about how she initially
arrived at that number for the sake of
like the press release to be
eyegrabbing. But in her spreadsheet, she
mention or she calculates it around like
the 85 to 120k ballpark range, not 200.
That was her arriving there off
basically like eyeballing it and then
putting out the press release about this
huge collection that is very valuable
that they got their hands on. But as she
actually went through the inventory in
the spreadsheet, it was closer to that
like 100k mark.
>> It's about $107,000. Now, between 2023
and 2024, the Gormans record sales of
about $24,000 of Brian's collection in
their inventory tracking list. And of
those sales, Brian was entitled to about
65 to 70% of it. He was paid $17,000,
which roughly tracks with that. Which
means on November 14th, the big night,
the remaining amount of Brian's
collection that should have been in
there is about $82,000.
>> And this is why having the correct
number is important. And it's something
Coffeezilla mentions. If you're going to
be trying to locate the missing Legos,
you have to know what you're even
looking for and how much you're looking
for here. because if it's a $200,000
collection, there is a lot more out
there in the [ __ ] wild, out there in
the rain and cold, you know, needing to
be found. But now that we have the
accurate numbers, you can start to more
fine-tune the investigation to locate
them. So, on the the big night here, uh,
you know, on on judgment day, $82,000
worth of Legos should have been in that
store, which is a really big deal
because Bricks and Minigs officially
stated that there is only like 2 to
5,000 that they located there. And
McNeff even said that there's only like
11 to 15k total Star Wars in that
location.
How is that possible? We have the
bookkeeping. There should have been
$82,000 worth of Star Wars Lego sets
from Brian Mansel's collection there.
But according to Bricks and Minigs and
according to uh uh MC Mcnasty
McNeff, I don't know why I blanked on
his name so hard. Uh [ __ ] Mc
Cheeseburger here. According to him,
there was only 11 to 15K in total Star
Wars there. So that's just that's not
adding up. Where is it? So, I went
through Crystal's photos myself, which
she shared with me, and hired people to
go through and hand tag the Star Wars
Legos that were in these photos. We
looked through over 200 plus photos,
multiple videos, and matched what we saw
with Brian's collection. In the end, I
ended up with about $21,000
of Legos matching Brian's collection
that can be proven to be in the store on
the night of November 14th. Now, to
state the obvious, that's about three to
five times what corporate estimated, at
least on their press release. Now, yes,
there are inherent errors in these
estimates. Maybe we picked up some Lego
that matched Brian's collection, but
wasn't Brian's. But even though this is
a bigger number than corporate said, I
have to admit, even with pretty generous
assumptions being made, there's still a
huge gap of about $61,000 here that I
just couldn't find. I think that was a
really clever way of doing things here.
He has so many photos from the Gormans
here and he hired a team to go through
manually old natural and tag them and so
that way they could find the valuation
of what is provably in the store on that
night and there is still a large amount
unaccounted for. Like yes, of course,
give or take, there's some error there
and how it was gathered and like what
the actual value might be, which she
points out, but even still, that is such
a good thing to work off of there
because now you have provable amount of
what's in the store and what is still
just completely lost in the ether, you
know, [ __ ] ghosts out there. But then
I learned Brian had made a special side
deal with M&R Productions, who had
recently purchased some Legos from him.
And this is where it starts to get
messy. So, these are the pictures that
M&R Productions sent me looking at the
Lego that Brian sold him. This was stuff
reportedly in storage. And it's
interesting because of an early
inventory list which had a column called
location that Crystal used. And it
listed a lot of the Star Wars items as
being located in what they called
storage. Now, previously I was told that
all of the stuff in storage was put back
in the store, but there's a bunch that's
on this list that I can't find in the
store that seem to appear in these
pictures. Now, I've been assured, by the
way, that most of these Legos were not
part of the inventory spreadsheet. They
were never given to Bricks and Minifig.
This is a separate part of the
collection. But I did a check and 100%
of the items that match the Brian
collection inventory just so happen to
be listed with a location of storage. So
this starts to make things incredibly
fuzzy and I'm inclined to believe that a
lot of these are part of that same
inventory list.
>> Yeah, I think that's a very natural
conclusion to draw from that. And this
is a really big thing that I had never
heard anything about. This uh side deal
on the Star Wars Legos that were sold to
someone else totally outside of all of
this commotion, but those sets still
appear in that spreadsheet, but they're
marked as located in storage, which as
Coffee points out, storage is something
according to the Gormans that they had
offsite, but would bring back to the
store and put in the safes. So like it
was in their possession still like
securely locked down. But how could that
possibly be true if they have been sold
to somebody else and there are now
pictures to confirm it and it seems like
it is all part of that collection. It
shouldn't be appearing in the
bookkeeping at all in that case. That is
super messy. And according to
Coffeezilla's estimates, it comes out to
about $15,000 in Lego that isn't
missing. We can see where it went. It
was sold to somebody else, but in the
inventory sheet is still marked in
storage, which I believe is very
inaccurate to say, and that is quite
shady.
>> Anything. And by the way, before we
continue, yes, this was all a lot of
work. If you want to, please support us
on Patreon. That's how this show gets
made.
>> I wanted to leave that plug in here
because Coffeezilla's work truly is
incredible, and I highly recommend
everyone go support him in any way you
can. his his investigations, I think,
are among the best. Not only on YouTube,
but just in general. He really does get
to the bottom of his [ __ ] stories in
a way that is very rare these days. And
I'm always appreciative of his work.
Now, the next thing he's looking at is
the point of sales records. And in
there, he notices that according to
this, $51,000
worth of Brian Mansel's collection was
sold. And according to Crystal herself
back in like an earlier talk with
Coffee, she even says like $50,000 of
the collection was sold. But Brian's
only been paid $17,000. What sense does
that make? He should be paid more. He is
owed more. So where is that? Where has
that gone? Who came in and shook that
lunch money out of him?
>> Hey, it was about 50 something,000.
Yeah,
>> but Brian was only paid 17,000.
>> And it should have been about double
that
>> without again without seeing any of
those any of those records, without
seeing those individual tickets, I can't
answer that any better.
>> This is kind of a problem. The math
ain't math in here. 65 to 70% of 50,000
is almost double what we believe Brian
was paid. And digging into the details,
it turns out a lot of these sales come
from what Crystal's spreadsheet actually
categorizes as layaways, meaning they
were marked as having been sold. But
layaways are when someone puts a down
payment on an item and later pays it
off. I imagine if any of you are
familiar with layaways, you just rolled
your eyes in a big way that always ends
in a lot of fuzziness, a a lot of
friction. So now we're starting to we're
starting to see
something very new in this story here.
So, Coffeezilla has learned that a lot
of this comes from layaways
>> worth about $20,000
in layaway. And that felt a little
strange to me. And because of that, I
asked Josh Johnson, the incoming owner,
and he responded, quote, "They're worth
two to three items on layaway when they
took over."
>> layway.
>> I haven't gone through and done a count,
but I know it was vastly more than two
to three.
>> It was about 98.
that that makes sense.
>> Coffee then tries to wrap his head
around this whole huge amount of
layaway. And Crystal then explains like,
"Yeah, it is extremely rare." And she
says that she's not even sure they've
ever done layaway until this set came
in. But then goes on to explain like how
their layaway worked where they'd, you
know, put the down payment then make
payments over like 30 days and that kind
of thing. that it was just a a big there
was the way she dove into it was already
very much a lot of moving pieces. She
even mentions like one set in particular
went on layaway four times and then
eventually got sold. So like this amount
of layaway and like the discrepancy
between how much layaway like what what
Josh is reporting and what is reported
on the sheet like the whole thing with
this layaway here is already getting
into some really spotty ground that
makes it hard to like really nail down
what's going on and why because it feels
like a crazy amount to be doing on
layaway which is something Coffeezilla
mentions as So, a lot of these are see
like look at this like so like it says
POSOS final sale price but it's listed
as a layaway but it's but it's sold for
$5.99 because it matches it matches with
the store sale price.
>> So, were they on layaway? Were they
accidentally marked layaway on the
spreadsheet? What's going on there?
>> Um our Ewok Village was one of those
cases. Uh at some point he had I think
like eight or nine different items on
layaway. Um, so they'd come in and make
a payment for a a a bulk payment. You
know, I've got 800 things on layaway.
I'm gonna make $100 on my payment. Um,
one customer in particular would do that
and then when he'd gotten up high enough
to pay for one set, we'd pull that set
out, mark it as sold. She states
numerous times that without being able
to see like the actual sales ticket, she
can't really give a great explanation,
but she talks about like one of the more
complicated layaway experiences they had
like with the Ewok village and like you
can see where things are getting really
muddy through this layaway um protocol
that they had there. and it's leading to
a lot of funky bookkeeping that is
making some really odd stuff come to
light. And another thing that
Coffeezilla gets into I think is a very
big one. But I even found more than that
in this POS data. I also found about
$10,000 in sales that match Brian's
collection that were not marked as sold
under this inventory spreadsheet. Some
of our things that were not found,
>> okay,
>> were explained by the POSOS system
because they were found in the POSM
system as being sold. So, like they
weren't marked on the spreadsheet, but
they were marked as sold via the POS
system. And this is about $10,000 worth
of Lego that basically were matched.
>> Huh. Um, there is a possibility that the
the consignments were ended when I
wasn't at work and I just didn't go
through and pull them up. They didn't
get put in the consignment ticket. I
hadn't gone through that those those
consignments in a couple of months. I
hadn't gone through the inventory in the
back room in a couple of months. So,
there it is entirely possible there were
things there were sales that were
finished that I never clocked as being
finished. I don't know that without
going through and actually seeing it.
>> But you're saying it's possible stuff
was sold, not updated on this inventory
list.
>> It's entirely possible.
>> Now, that is a big stinky whoopsie if
things from this collection are being
sold and they're not being updated and
Brian is not getting paid because it's
not getting updated. So, they don't know
that it's getting sold in the first
place. You can see where we're having a
big problem now. This bookkeeping is now
seeming to be the most egregious
catalyst to where this whole thing
started with this missing Lego
collection and him not being properly
paid for Legos that may have actually
already been sold and aren't even
missing. Now, in that audio recording
when Brandon Best came in and kicked
them out, she does make a mention that
Brandon may not have been paid yet.
everything that he's owed. That is
something that is explicitly mentioned
by her. Coffeezilla also plays the
recording where you can hear all of
that. I've played it for you a couple
times. I'm sure you know what I'm
talking about and is assured by the man
on the phone who we know is Kai or Key.
I already forgot how to say his [ __ ]
name. That the consignment liability
will be taken on by the new franchises
here that are coming in. So Crystal does
make a mention that Brian hasn't
received everything that he is owed here
from all the sales, but from the
bookkeeping here, it looks very messy.
So the amount that he was going to get
paid from Crystal probably still
wouldn't have been accurate. At least
not in my opinion. Not based on
everything I'm seeing here, cuz it seems
like a lot may have been overlooked,
forgotten to be updated, or just lost
somewhere along the way in the
bookkeeping, which would make it very,
very difficult for them to properly
compensate him for what they have sold
from his collection, either through
layaway or through just finishing that
consignment there on those. So, it was
already in a weird spot, but she did
recognize that there was money that he
was owed and put that on the radar of
the new incoming owners. Maybe you can
chalk some of this up to bad
recordkeeping between the U-Haul, the
layaways, the $20,000 in Lego sets that
corporate called $2 to $5,000 that was
there that night, the offbook deals. But
even if we can't like fully know 100%,
you know, what these weird things were
about, I think they tell a story of what
actually happened to Brian's collection.
In a way, multiple people, I think, are
kind of right, kind of wrong. The
Gormans were correct that more of that
collection was there that night of the
takeover than previously thought, but
corporate also alleged that some of it
was offsite and that appears to be
partly true. Although some of that is
disputed and it looks like, you know,
way more of the collection was sold and
layawayed than Brian was paid for. But
all in all, there's a lot less missing
than many people think, especially if
your starting number is $200,000.
>> Very, very, very true. Yeah. After
watching this, it is extremely clear
that from the very beginning, there was
not nearly as much missing as everyone
thought going into this story. And yeah,
bricks and mini figs seems to be liar,
liar, plants for hire in a bunch of
cases. Sure. But their claim about like
the off-site stuff, yeah, coffeey's
right. It does seem like on all
available evidence that is true. not
just offsite and then brought back and
put in the safe, but like sold offsite
like to that other guy, the M&R. And
then the Gormans are correct that there
were more Legos there than Bricks and
Minigs is saying. And it does look like
a lot of this goes back to really
terrible recordkeeping. I don't know
whether that's like malicious like the
Gormans were trying to like scrape from
the top or try and like, you know, stiff
Brian and take the lion's share for
themselves and like use underhanded
tactics for it or if it really was just
bad bookkeeping because they weren't
very good at bookkeeping. It's hard to
say for sure. I like I really I don't
know one way or the other on that, but
the layaways and how they kept track of
everything is clearly a huge issue that
definitely made this situation
significantly messier. And according to
Coffeezilla, Brian Mancel is still owed
like $50 to $83,000
by his estimation here in payments that
he hasn't received that he should have
received in this general ballpark range.
That is the most important piece of all
this. A man who's been really wronged on
all sides here, it seems that is still
owed this money here from this [ __ ]
conundrum for Lego. He wasn't
compensated for. And I think honestly
that's something that Bricks and Minigs
obviously should handle and make right.
Regardless of what a franchisee does,
the new one, the old one, the company
behind it must stand behind their
product, their service, and I can't
imagine a better example of a company
doing the opposite. Unfortunately,
Bricks and Miniix has chosen to deflect
and dodge responsibility at most
opportunities and created a really awful
customer experience that has snowballed
into this crazy series of events.
>> That's so [ __ ] right. Coffeezilla
absolutely hitting the bullseye. It's
something I've been saying from the very
beginning. Even if Bricks and Minigs at
some point along this journey came out
and proved everyone was wrong here, at
the very core, Brian Mansel is a
customer who attempted to use the Bricks
and Minig service because he believed it
was the gold standard and his best bet
to sell his father's lifelong Star Wars
collection for life-changing money. and
through this ended up getting completely
shafted. And yes, a lot of it could
maybe tie back to like the terrible
recordkeeping with the previous owners,
but at the end of the day, it is
something that Bricks and Minigs
themselves should have been more more
than willing to make right on their own
because it is still their company. It is
their brand. And every step of the way,
they villainized Brian. They attacked
Brian and refused to make it right
without this huge public spectacle
putting pressure on them. Now Ammon's
singing the whole like let's just all be
friends. Come grab my arm and we'll
square dance type [ __ ] Like it took a
huge massive avalanche as Coffeezilla
describes it to finally get them to even
toy with the idea of making it right.
But they have nowhere along this path
actually wanted to do that. Which is why
I've said this makes no sense for their
business because who the [ __ ] would want
to work with them going forward because
if you are brand main sale in this case,
if you are a customer that wants to use
bricks and minifigs and you're going to
sell through them and something goes
wrong, they're not on your side. They
have proven that they will be actively
combative against you and will do
everything they can to slap you down for
their own self-interest. That is the
most glaringly obvious fumble you could
ever make as a business. And it's
something Bricks and Minig still to this
day refuses to recognize. But instead of
all these Legos at Bricks and Miniig
Look, mistakes have been made by plenty
of people here. But there's a lot more
people who have inflicted selfowns, the
likes of which we've rarely seen by just
choosing the worst possible path at
every fork in the road. No pun intended.
But the best path to making things right
in my view is by just making Brian whole
and moving on.
>> Yeah. So, as Ammon continues to do his
like playing the world's smallest violin
for why won't anyone think about bricks
and mini figs feelings, we just want to
make Brian Mancel whole. That's the main
thing that we're thinking about over
here. We just have him constantly in our
thoughts and we're praying for him and
we want to help and we want to work with
him collaboratively as best friends
together. I want to kiss him on the
mouth. I want to have a group hug in the
shower with Brian and all of our team
together as one nude just going on and
on about how their mission is now to
help Brian do everything they can for
Brian
and meanwhile they're actively suing him
for $1.3 million which is why everything
Ammon is saying about it just feels so
fraudulent, feels so scummy. He is a
snake. He's saying that he just wants to
help him and make Brian whole again. We
want to give him what he's owed while
actively suing him for $1.3 million.
Coffee is right. That's a terrible idea.
And again, this should show every
customer ever in the LEGO community to
not work with Bricks and Miniig because
Brian's only crime was getting [ __ ] by
their business. Like, yes, their
franchisee like the Gorman's definitely
played a huge role with how they handled
things and making it so messy in the
first place, but when he tried to
correct course and try and get what he's
owed and going through corporate, look
at what happened. Look at what's
happened. Yes, he went to Reckless Ben
as well where things really popped off.
But what other avenues did he have? He
couldn't fight them legally. There's
even record of a bricks and minifigs
higher up like someone that's not at the
bottom of the food chain that has a
pretty substantial position there on on
record on the phone even saying that
they will just financially bleed them
dry talking to the Gormans. They'll draw
it out in court and they'll lose more
than they would have ever made should
they win. like it going the legal route
for an ordinary citizen like Brian
Mancel is an extremely costly and not
actually attainable path. So he tried to
do everything in his power to just be
paid what he's owed like be made whole
again. Just try and get this resolved
and look at what's happened to him.
Bricks and Minigs is suing him for $1.3
million. I don't blame him for going to
Reckless Ben. You can point the finger
at Reckless Ben like the way he handled
it was like bad and counterproductive,
whatever. Without it, nothing would have
changed in Brian's personal situation
here. And and it's just I don't know how
anyone could possibly defend Bricks and
Minifig's decision to sue him here. $1.3
million. Like, he is a victim of your
business, man. Like, this [ __ ] is crazy
to me. It is a terrible idea and they
refuse to back down on it. This is why I
really just don't think anyone should do
business with Bricks and Minigs going
forward. They are not good partners to
work with. They are not looking out for
you, the person that wants to do
business with them. This [ __ ] is just
ridiculous.
>> Tried it. They were basically met with
unreasonable requests, things like that.
So,
>> verification, documentation. Is that
unreasonable? You think?
>> Uh, well, I think they would say they
provided the documentation and you guys
say you need more documentation. So, I
mean, that's the kind that's kind of the
>> right a spread like I understand a
spreadsheet and a contract are are a
good start.
>> Yeah. But but we never got that. That
was never sent to us at corporate. By
the way,
>> y'all don't have the Y'all do have the
spreadsheet though. Yeah. Y'all have the
spreadsheet.
>> That that was shared online, but like
but months after we asked for it.
>> It says it's I I'm just I'm so confused.
It says I I'm I'm on the I'm on the file
right now. It says storage used owned by
BAM Franchising Inc. owner salem.org
bricksand minifigs.com.
>> What What are you looking at?
>> It is incredible how Ammon cannot help
but put his own dick in his mouth all
the time constantly. So this is like at
the end of Coffeezilla's video now. He's
given his thoughts on this whole thing
and his conclusions and he was taking it
to the parties involved here. And when
talking with Ammon, he Ammon's like,
"Oh, we never even got that." Which is
just provably false. Copy to his face
proves that they had access to this
spreadsheet that he's claiming they
didn't have access to until months
later. That is a verifiably false
statement. Ammon says owner Salem.org
at bricksand minifigs.com. That's you
guys. Says owned by Bam franchising inc.
Says created September 6th, 2024. And
when I look at it, this is the the Manel
uh list, I believe.
>> So, this this would have been created
under like So, so we
we have the um we
>> y'all definitely have this. Y'all have
access to this.
>> Well, I had no idea.
>> Then you're dumb, Ammon. Then you're
just stupid. How about that? You're just
an idiot. You're a bumbling imbecile.
You're a [ __ ] And yet you continue to
say like, "Oh, they never even provided
it." Well, you just don't know then
because you're too stupid to know. Like
what?
Ammon actually boggles my mind, bro.
It's crazy. Like, so if this is the
first anybody has shown me
>> that
>> that a spreadsheet was created using
like Bricks and Minifigs Salem like and
all of this stuff was archived. This
this is the first I've seen that this
spreadsheet was created by Crystal and
we don't know how accurate it is, how up
up up to date it was. We don't know a
lot of those types of things and and
understand I appreciate you sharing this
with us because we had no idea. Again,
you don't know what you don't know and
you you can't like we don't know
everything and we don't go, you know,
like looking in every nook and cranny
everywhere, you know, like we just don't
know some of those things. So then
you're a bad business. Then you're just
a dog [ __ ] business. Like this isn't a
good defense, Ammon. Oh, we just don't
know. We just like actually don't keep
track of any of this [ __ ] Yeah, we just
like actually have no idea. You don't
know what you don't know and you don't
know your own business.
man, wake up. Use your head. You
shouldn't be in the position you're in
then. How about like I How does that at
any in any way excuse anything of what's
happened here? It's a terrible defense,
man. Especially when you keep trying to
like poke holes in other people's
stories when you admittedly don't even
keep track of your own [ __ ] You don't
even know your own things. You don't
even know what you even have access to
in the first place. So, how could you
even be approaching things to talk about
them or opine on them Ammon? Like,
you're just you're off your gourd. But
yeah, anyway, it was a fantastic
investigation that I really do think got
to the bottom of most of the meat and
potatoes here. Uh, at the end, the
Gormans also mentioned that they
recognize that a lot of this falls on
their shoulders for potentially like bad
bookkeeping and that they're more than
willing to like take accountability for
that and try and make it right, but they
need the tickets from Bricks and Minigs,
which they said they would do, that kind
of stuff. All in all, just another
banger here from Coffeezilla in an
incredible investigation and can only
hope that Brian Mancel gets made whole
here from Bricks and Minigs and they
actually pay him what he's owed. Uh that
they like they need to make things right
and it starts with making him whole and
dropping that [ __ ] lawsuit. You
actual imbecile, man. It's crazy.
Anyway, anyway, anyway though, amazing
work from Coffeezilla. Please go support
him in any way you can. That's really
about it. See you.
