1:25:06The full-length interview with Elon Musk | The Economist
[Elon Musk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk) sits down at a [Tesla](https://www.tesla.com) Gigafactory with [The Economist](https://www.economist.com)'s editor in chief, [Zanny Minton Beddoes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanny_Minton_Beddoes), for 85 minutes that split cleanly in half. First comes Musk the technologist: AI exceeding the sum of human intelligence in roughly five years, humans probably not in control a decade out, work becoming optional, money not mattering by 2036, and electricity rather than chips as the real constraint on everything. Then comes Musk the political actor, defending the Starlink white list in Ukraine, insisting that exactly zero people died from the USAID cuts, arguing that civil war in Britain is inevitable on current trends, and telling his interviewer that the media is hated more than he is. The two halves meet at the end, when he puts the AI and robot singularity at ten years away and civil war in Britain at twenty, and concludes the machines get there first.